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Running a few errands, I stopped by Best Buys the other day, and on the way back to the electronics department I turned my head and said, "Huh. Will you look at that!".

On display was a small, green motorsickle. I walked over and gave it a look see. It was a direct drive electric model. No clutch, no gearshift, no gas tank. Just a frame, braking system, batteries and a motor. Too cute. Kinda reminded me of a electric quad riding toy I got one of my kids when he was three. The Bike: https://www.brammo.com/home/.

Almost immediately Sales Guy came up and said, "Want to test drive it?"

Torn. Driving an electric two-wheel vehicle would be novel, but I'm an ATGATT guy and I drove the cage here. "Ah, sorry. I didn't bring my helmet." Sales Guy says, "No problem, you can wear one of these new helmets here. You look like you wear a size XL."

Okay. Why not. We walk around to the side of the store where they kept a couple of demo models. He tells me Best Buys purchased the exclusive marketing rights in the US for a cool $10 million. "Sell many?", I asked. "Only a few so far," he admitted.

It's been years since I rode such a small bike, so it felt like a toy. He showed me the start up sequence, where the little computer ran diagnostics on the batteries and motor controller and showed 3/4 charge remaining on the batteries. Sales Guy then bid me farewell with the admonition, "Have fun. Be back in a half hour!".

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I noodle around the parking lot for a couple of minutes, then take it to the street. I returned some time later, with a smile on my face. Some thoughts on the ride:

  1. The bike was dirt simple to operate. Just twist the throttle and it goes. And winds and winds. No clutch - centrifugal, automatic, or otherwise.
  2. The brakes were competent.
  3. The bike will make an honest 60mph indicated on the freeway.
  4. The mirrors are useless - you don't see your shoulders, you see your nipples (it was a very light jacket and the temperature was in the 40's).
  5. The suspension was stiff, and I felt every little bump I went over. But the bike was pleasantly agile. Dodging errant cagers was easy.
  6. On the freeway, after a few minutes a red "battery" icon flashed repeatedly, even through it showed that I had a half charge. It stopped blinking when I slowed down back onto the surface streets. Sales Guy couldn't explain this, but in digging a bit I think it was a warning about potential low battery charge given the high rate of discharge on the freeway. Or maybe there was a problem with that particular bike.
  7. Most of all, it was quiet. The only sounds from the bike itself were the whine of the motor, the whirl of a small fan to cool the motor controller, and the sound of the tires on the pavement. No Harley riders will ever be happy with a bike such as this. Not even if mod'ed with baseball cards in the spokes. :)
The kicker is that it's very pricey at over $7,000 after federal tax incentives. But even at this price point, there are likely markets for this - perhaps even in developing countries. For example, a couple of years ago I went to Vietnam on business, and the streets of Saigon were filled with about 4 million little 50c - 150cc motorbikes. At that time the going price of a motorbike from China was about $2,000 USD (and could be expected to last 2 or 3 years); one from Korea went for $5,000 with an life expectancy of 5 years; and one from Japan sold on the open market for $10,000 but might last for 20 years. So even there, the little green electric bike might have a niche.
It's range is a maximum of 40 miles, but the operating cost is very low - both in maintenance and in power costs. I guess the take-away message for me was that this technology is becoming viable, and will only get better.

It will be interesting to see what the future might bring us...

 
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Very cool. Did you find out if it charges on 110, how far it will go on a charge, and how long it takes to recharge a discharged battery?.

 
Lithium-ion batteries are said to be good for 1,000 charges, and the Brammo has a range of 45 miles or so - enough to satisfy the needs of most commuters. And it can be recharged to 80 percent capacity in four hours using a standard 110-volt outlet.

Here's the manufacturer's web site

Brammo

 
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[*]On the freeway, after a few minutes a red "battery" icon flashed repeatedly, even through it showed that I had a half charge. It stopped blinking when I slowed down back onto the surface streets. Sales Guy couldn't explain this, but in digging a bit I think it was a warning about potential low battery charge given the high rate of discharge on the freeway. Or maybe there was a problem with that particular bike.
I'm willing to bet (and somewhat impressed if they thought far enough ahead to include it) that the warning was to inform the rider that you were passing the point of no return, based on your existing battery charge state and rate of battery discharge. In other words, if you left on a full battery and have reached this point, you will have to recharge on the road or turn around now to make it back home.

 
Sam, ya look like ya lost weight. And it makes you look younger too. :D
Why thank you, Mike! So kind of you to notice! ;)

So, did it wheelie ?
Not with me on board! :) The throttle response was perky, but the bike only makes about 18 hp. I think what it perhaps does is put what power it does make to good use.

 
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