End of the FJR?

[Lou D]

Check out the new Yamaha sport tourer in motorcycle.com

Based on the 3 cylinder FZ-09...sorry

 

[HelzBelz]

hmm. did they read about that here on the forum?

 

[Pterodactyl]

Does not look as much like an FJR as it does a VStrom, at least in the amount of rider protection offered. No shaft drive is a bummer.

 

[SkooterG]

End of the FJR? Don't be silly!

 

[Queensland Ken]

Journalistic crap as usual.

 

[escapefjrtist]

Linky to (what there is of it) article. Stepping stone to the FJR, replacement...nope.

--G

 

[MCRIDER007]

That's not even close to an FJR, looks more like a future Tenere.....after they add shaft drive.

 

[Twigg]

I'm done with chains ... esp. on LD bikes.

Stick a shaft on it and it might be a very good alternative to the GS1200, etc.

 

[xcsp]

That bike looks hideous, especially from the front, hard-pressed to see that one becoming reality.

Now this one at the following link has possibilities just add shaft-drive!

https://www.magacin.dk/motorcykler/sportstouring-maskine-fra-yamaha/ar5569/

 

[Road_Runner]

This looks to be an addition to the lineup of adventure tourers... similar to Triumph having two Tigers (800,1200). I don't believe that Yamaha will decide to retire the FJR rather than redesign it, but if that happens this bike is no replacement. Perspective sport touring buyers would go to the RT or other marques, or even the shaft-drive Tenere before looking at this bike.

 

[Geezer]

No surprise that Yamaha knows how to put bags on the FZ09. Side cases on the original FZ09 would make it a very nice commuter bike and weekend travel bike. And, I have said before, the three cylinder engine is likely to find it's way onto the FJR at some point, but it won't be the size of an FZ09 and it better have a shaft.

 

[Twigg]

The FJ1100/1200 had a chain.

When the FJR1300 was launched, even though it was an all-new bike, fuel injection and a shaft were in the design brief.

All major manufacturers put a shaft drive on their big sports-tourers, and no one is begging for a chain, so I can't see Yamaha bucking the trend unless they have developed a belt-drive that really works.

If they had that it would combine the reliability and maintenance schedule of a shaft, with the weight saving and power delivery of a chain. It would still take a lot of persuading

 

[ULEWZ]

Bags, big windscreen, more range, less weight, no SHAFT drive lag, sign me up.

 

[RadioHowie]

Okay, I'll bite....

WTF is "shaft drive lag"???

 

[Top_Speed1]

Okay, I'll bite....
WTF is "shaft drive lag"???

It's the (dead)space in the driveline, when on or off throttle (mostly taking throttle down and/on close to the edge of shifting points) it gives you the lag feeling and some have reported a slight clunk.

It's not on all models/bikes. Some report and feel this while others don't. I have felt it very rarely on my FJR. Nothing to write home about tho.

 

[Ignacio]

Okay, I'll bite....
WTF is "shaft drive lag"???

I think the more accurate term is "drive lash" and comes from any play in the gears or components of the drive system....usually the final drive area. Any play in the u-joints, pinion gear, even the cush drive in the wheel has a bit of play or "slack". While there's more in these systems than a chain drive....it's minor stuff IMO.

You ever put the bike on the center stand, have the bike in gear, and notice that you can move the wheel back and forth an inch or two? That's drive lash. You ever notice it while riding? ....yeah, that's what I thought.....me too. If we did we'd probably also have an R1 to use on the track.

I'd be more worried about the "shaft effect" than anything.

Oh, and I think the OP is silly too.

 

[Twigg]

Okay, I'll bite....
WTF is "shaft drive lag"???

It's the difference between 0 to 60 in 3.0 secs, and 0 to 60 in 2.95 secs.

Also known as a New York Second, or the time it takes in a major city between the light going green and the guy behind hitting his horn.

 

[Top_Speed1]

On my other multiple of forums, both terms are used to express, lag or lash. And again, it's mostly felt on the off throttle and low speeds where the torque winds from once on, tension wise, then to off power to where the wheel momentum is now forcing the shaft in the opposite direction. That is where the lag or lash (space/gap) takes place.

 

[lnewlf]

Chain drive has "lag" too...put the bike on the centerstand and see how far the wheel moves back and forth...about the same as a shaftie.. especially if the chain adjustment is not exactly right