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I just installed Motivation frame sliders on my 2014. The info I had from pervious sliders was to torque them to 40-45ft/lb. I just looked at FAQ and Bin-O-Facts for GenIII seems to indicate 35ft/lb. I torqued at 45ft/lbs. Will my engine explode at this torque or should I re-torque before hand?

 
Your engine won't explode, but the threads those big, mean, vicious bolts screw in to are weak-sauce aluminum...that can and WILL strip out without hesitation or a moment's notice. And despite their popularity, heli-coil repairs are crap.

 
I think the FSM would be my primary reference followed by the Bin-O-Facts section. My OES sliders specified no thread locker and have not required any retensioning since originally installed. I checked them pretty frequently the first 6 months after installation and now only check every three months when I check all the fasteners.

 
I just installed Motivation frame sliders on my 2014. The info I had from pervious sliders was to torque them to 40-45ft/lb. I just looked at FAQ and Bin-O-Facts for GenIII seems to indicate 35ft/lb. I torqued at 45ft/lbs. Will my engine explode at this torque or should I re-torque before hand?
....NO, but you could regret it... 35ft/lb's dry, no lube or thread locker which will act as a lubricant as well...and could strip threads 35 ft/lb's

 
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I just installed Motivation frame sliders on my 2014. The info I had from pervious sliders was to torque them to 40-45ft/lb. I just looked at FAQ and Bin-O-Facts for GenIII seems to indicate 35ft/lb. I torqued at 45ft/lbs. Will my engine explode at this torque or should I re-torque before hand?
....NO, but you could regret it... 35 dry, no lube or thread locker which will act as a lubricant as well...and could strip threads 35 ft/lb's
Pretty well covered here

Lubrication Reduces Friction

Lubrication reduces the friction during tightening, decreases bolt failure during installation and increases bolt life. Variation in friction coefficients affect the amount of preload achieved at a specific torque. Higher friction results in less conversion of torque to preload. The value for the friction coefficient provided by the lubricant manufacturer must be known to accurately establish the required torque value.

Lubricant or anti-seizure compounds should be applied to both the nut bearing surface and the male threads.

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Just because I'm a bit picky about such things...

Torque values in the form of ft/lb have been used above. The correct form is ft times lb (ft·lb). ft/lb is feet divided by pounds.

The first time I removed my sliders, it was not easy - corrosion, not over-torqued. Whether it was a good idea or not, I cleaned up the bolts and re-installed using anti-seize. I probably should have reduced the torque value due to lubrication but used the published recommendation. For some reason, these bolts are particularly prone to oxidation.

 
Just because I'm a bit picky about such things...
Torque values in the form of ft/lb have been used above. The correct form is ft times lb (ft·lb). ft/lb is feet divided by pounds.

The first time I removed my sliders, it was not easy - corrosion, not over-torqued. Whether it was a good idea or not, I cleaned up the bolts and re-installed using anti-seize. I probably should have reduced the torque value due to lubrication but used the published recommendation. For some reason, these bolts are particularly prone to oxidation.
Not true. We use lb in, and lb ft in aviation manuals exclusively. The rule of thumb idiom is, you can move a pound a foot, but not a foot a pound. Right or wrong, that is what we use. I was told when I started in this business, that someone way smarter than I looked things up in an physics manual, and to use lb in., not in. lb. Been doing this now for 35 years.

A pound-foot (lb·ft or lbf·ft) is a unit of torque (a pseudovector). One pound-foot is the torque created by one pound force acting at a perpendicular distance of one foot from a pivot point.

One pound-foot is exactly 1.3558179483314004 newton meters.[note 1]

The name "pound-foot", intended to minimize confusion with the foot-pound as a unit of work, was apparently first proposed by British physicist Arthur Mason Worthington.[1] However, foot-pound (ft·lb or ft·lbf) is also sometimes used interchangeably with "pound-foot" to express torque

 
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Funny, I just installed the same sliders on my '14 today. I tightened to 35 ft-lb as indicated.

Bottom line, the OP should reduce his to 35 from his current 45 ft-lb.

 
Just because I'm a bit picky about such things...

Torque values in the form of ft/lb have been used above. The correct form is ft times lb (ft·lb). ft/lb is feet divided by pounds.

The first time I removed my sliders, it was not easy - corrosion, not over-torqued. Whether it was a good idea or not, I cleaned up the bolts and re-installed using anti-seize. I probably should have reduced the torque value due to lubrication but used the published recommendation. For some reason, these bolts are particularly prone to oxidation.
Not true. We use lb in, and lb ft in aviation manuals exclusively. The rule of thumb idiom is, you can move a pound a foot, but not a foot a pound. Right or wrong, that is what we use. I was told when I started in this business, that someone way smarter than I looked things up in an physics manual, and to use lb in., not in. lb. Been doing this now for 35 years.

A pound-foot (lb·ft or lbf·ft) is a unit of torque (a pseudovector). One pound-foot is the torque created by one pound force acting at a perpendicular distance of one foot from a pivot point.

One pound-foot is exactly 1.3558179483314004 newton meters.[note 1]

The name "pound-foot", intended to minimize confusion with the foot-pound as a unit of work, was apparently first proposed by British physicist Arthur Mason Worthington.[1] However, foot-pound (ft·lb or ft·lbf) is also sometimes used interchangeably with "pound-foot" to express torque
lb·ft is the correct form although the terms are commonly used interchangeably as per the last line in your post. My point was that ft/lb implies division (feet per pound) which is not a measurement of torque.

Edit: Even the Yamaha FSM for the FJR uses ft·lb.

 
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Many thanks for providing a fast and informative reply. I made a bee line to the garage and re-torqued the bolts to 35 lb-ft or ft-lb. My torque wrench is expressed in ft-lb. I almost forgot who Newton was!! It's been almost 50 years since a college science class.

 
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