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I'm sorry - DID I GIVE YOU FUCKING PERMISSION TO RESHARE MY PHOTOS ON YOUR WEBSHOTS?

I suppose in Canada they don't have any Copyright law?

I didn't want to turn this into some stupid debate, and was even CONSIDERATE enough to edit and repost with nice 1024 resolution pics with links to the 4200+ resolution ones - which several people walked up to me and told me they were looking forward to after I posted the same size last year.

I'm really not going to debate photography - or even GPSs with you, in fact, you weren't at EOM so I don't know why you're taking over as it's photographer.

Please remove MY pictures from YOUR webshots and stop criticizing my work.

Thank you.

- Oh, and I'm sure you'll want to start arguing copyright, and yes I do know I didn't actually apply protection to them, but I may have to start looking into it now. Fortunately, Flickr isn't such a crappy site it can be done easily there.

I am sure John is aware of how to post pic's and just wanted to give everyone the full effect. If there is a bandwith issue the Admin's. can decide that.
It isn't the board's bandwidth I was referring to, since the pictures are hosted at Flickr. It is user bandwidth.

Besides, it is called 'consideration'.

Either he didn't know how, or he wasn't being considerate. Since he chose to warn everyone I prefer to believe the former - and besides, it provides the information for others who might not know, along with examples.

That he chose to post smaller pictures and post separate links implies that perhaps he didn't understand my post in any case.









Clicking any of the photos takes you to the copy I have stuck on webshots.
 
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That was not ALL the bike, there were a bunch of them around that did not make the picture.
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That's right! YOURS wasn't in there, was it? :p

OUCH
Fairlaner,

As much as I would have given you crap for flying, I can respect taking a trip like that just to meet fellow FJR'ers. Plus, it was probably driving you nuts seeing all of us coming and going with you trapped in tennis shoes and shorts. Didn't "formally" meet you, but it was still nice meeting you.

John

 
I'm sorry - DID I GIVE YOU FUCKING PERMISSION TO RESHARE MY PHOTOS ON YOUR WEBSHOTS?
I suppose in Canada they don't have any Copyright law?

I didn't want to turn this into some stupid debate, and was even CONSIDERATE enough to edit and repost with nice 1024 resolution pics with links to the 4200+ resolution ones - which several people walked up to me and told me they were looking forward to after I posted the same size last year.

I'm really not going to debate photography - or even GPSs with you, in fact, you weren't at EOM so I don't know why you're taking over as it's photographer.

Please remove MY pictures from YOUR webshots and stop criticizing my work.

Thank you.

- Oh, and I'm sure you'll want to start arguing copyright, and yes I do know I didn't actually apply protection to them, but I may have to start looking into it now. Fortunately, Flickr isn't such a crappy site it can be done easily there.
To silence your immediate complaint, I have deleted your photo from the Webshots site.

My posts had nothing to do with the content of your picture or about EOM. Your work was never criticized by me, though I did make a suggestion about your presentation of it. That was the point of my post - to suggest and demonstrate that there is a bandwidth efficient mechanism available to display your pictures. If Flickr does support the mechanism and you were aware of it . . . .

Besides, some members could conceivably be constrained to 800 pixels across, depending on what they use for computers.

But did you get signed releases from every person in the (one) photograph I used for my example before publishing it in the first place?

I didn't think so.

And, you are quite correct - you never did declare the copyright, and I only used it in the same thread as you did to illustrate the mechanism by which you might have been more considerate of others' possible bandwidth restrictions - and to demonstrate how one can actually get people to click the link, by making the photograph itself the link, rather than have it hiding off to the side.

You'd have had a nice, valid point if I'd used the picture for something other than what I did - e.g. publishing it in a book, or using it on a different web site without getting the copyright holder's permission . . . . but who is that? Were you the event's official photographer? If so, then I believe that the event probably owns the rights, subject to getting specific releases from all of the people in the photo. I suppose you could have blurred each abstaining face out, but I see you didn't do that.

But you let the cat out of the bag, since I saw your shots on Facebook, posted by someone else.

So, if you are through being anal about your 'work of art', I suppose we can all go back to the usual business of the day.

Edit: This is my last post in THIS thread . . .

 
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jmarran:

Great shots, thank you. bigger is better.

Once again I missed the group shot at EOM, my brother and I were out riding late.

Thanks again

Jim S

 
just because i happen to know (since i am the copyright representative at my job): everything that a person creates has an implied copyright. It belongs legally to the creator whether or not it carries a copyright notification. :huh:

if someone "steals" your work, AND you can prove it was yours first . . . you can exercise legal repercussions.

(that's why smart authors mail their chapters to themselves through registered mail and leave the envelope sealed . . . it proves who it belonged to and on what date). :D

just an aside -- there were bunches of people snapping photos of the bikes and bet THEY won't mind if people copy and share their pictures . . . i'd call it "appreciation" in this venue. :fans:

 
It's simply an issue of tone.

I always accept constructive criticism, especially that I can learn from.

Just after completely replacing my post with smaller pics and links underneath, which I felt was easiest, to have someone suddenly take it and share it from their site really rubbed me the wrong way.

My #1 priority is to get the best shots of our outstanding group and GIVE the highest quality pictures to them.

If copyright was really my issue, I wouldn't be sharing them unprotected - in fact I'd be selling prints.

Thanks for the compliments, all I can say is as glad as I was to see the sun that afternoon I sure was glad it wasn't shining on us at that moment (that was my biggest issue the last 2 years).

I will have more pics to share over the next couple days. Mostly Julies though! With all the rain and riding, I didn't pull the Nikon out of the case that much.

 
B. Frank... you sure are a trip w/o luggage.

Good pics John. I sure missed everyone this year.

 
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I liked the photos == Thanks

Much better than the ones i took with my smart phone.

Not official but counter about 110 bikes parked at the hotel , front and back. I couldn't get a count as they were lining up and there were some that were still riding.

 
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