Ethanol Effects on FJR?

[Fred W]

I find that the ethanol affects the rider more than the bike. We really do not have any option to use anything but E10 in the northeast, and I've yet to encounter a single FJR rider that has had engine problems traceable to use of E10 fuel.

I'm pretty sure that the FJR would balk at a fill of E85. And I guess we are going to see what happens at E15 pretty soon, according to many news reports.

 

[Klubis]

Ethanol bothers me, but not excessively. If I can get E free fuel, I do. I will even pay more for it, like maybe upgrading to 93. But if E free fuel is not available, no big deal, I use E10 and either use it up quickly or slash it with Star Tron.

 

[Mackeroni]

I would not even begin to know where to find ethanol-free gasoline. Locally, I use regular 87 octane with 10% ethanol with absolutely no ill effects. On the road, I simply pump in the regular grade and keep going. No worries. After 40,000 miles, it just doesn't seem to have mattered.

 

[Geezer]

I would not even begin to know where to find ethanol-free gasoline. Locally, I use regular 87 octane with 10% ethanol with absolutely no ill effects. On the road, I simply pump in the regular grade and keep going. No worries. After 40,000 miles, it just doesn't seem to have mattered.

It is available in Canton.

https://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=OH

 

[pista]

I would not even begin to know where to find ethanol-free gasoline. Locally, I use regular 87 octane with 10% ethanol with absolutely no ill effects. On the road, I simply pump in the regular grade and keep going. No worries. After 40,000 miles, it just doesn't seem to have mattered.

It is available in Canton.

https://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=OH

Hey Geezer, I think it is available for sale as "recreational fuel" only and not legal for on road use.

And it's about $2/gal more than e10

 

[BobCo]

And it's about $2/gal more than e10

So let me get this straight, you pay more for no ethanol? You pay more for less? Then why do I have to pay so much for 40% ethanol? This seems like a prohibitionist plot to me.

 

[Geezer]

I would not even begin to know where to find ethanol-free gasoline. Locally, I use regular 87 octane with 10% ethanol with absolutely no ill effects. On the road, I simply pump in the regular grade and keep going. No worries. After 40,000 miles, it just doesn't seem to have mattered.

It is available in Canton.

https://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=OH

Hey Geezer, I think it is available for sale as "recreational fuel" only and not legal for on road use.

And it's about $2/gal more than e10

That may be true for Ohio. At least that makes it available for small engines with carburetors. Local to me it is available for street use, but only high octane. The price is about the same as high octane of fuels with ethanol. My car requires high octane, so I use the corn free stuff for that.

 

[pista]

So let me get this straight, you pay more for no ethanol? You pay more for less? Then why do I have to pay so much for 40% ethanol? This seems like a prohibitionist plot to me.</p></blockquote>

In part the pricing is a function of demand. Marinas will only buy non ethanol because of issues with fuel tanks deteriorating in many boats.

The fuel is sold at a premium because of this inelastic demand.

 

[BobCo]

Out of Context Quote: sold at a premium because of this inelastic demand.

So that's why I pay so much for my Scotch and Irish - inelastic demand. I'm sorry but that sounds more like a problem with ****** tighties

 

[danh600]

I hear all the horror stories about ethanol. Funny thing is I have never had a single engine problem on any of my motorcycles or cars. We do however ride all year since this is Florida. The bikes just never sit up months at a time. They are however stored in a very, very hot garage.

Supposedly carbureted bikes are worse for having problem. Hasn't been the case with my wife's 2009

Honda. Seven years and it cranks right up.

Now my lawn mower is a different story. Seems I have to get the carb cleaned about once a year. It

starts running rough. I have a guy here at work that pulls off the carb. Cleans it and the mower runs like a top again.

 

[its just rain]

My 2011 FJR likes it just fine and so does my 1983 Honda 450!

 

[roger dodger]

Now my lawn mower is a different story. Seems I have to get the carb cleaned about once a year.

I use SeaFoam in the lawnmower gas and it seems to run better, and NOT need professional help.

The smaller engines REALLY like the non-oxy gas, I won't tell you (floridians) how it works great in my snowblower.

 

[Bill Lumberg]

I run real gas in my carbeureted motors (airhead and lawn equipment), regular ethanol tainted gas in my FJR and cars.

 

[gapiob]

In France, we have 3 kind of gas :

98 octane, 95 octane, and E10 (with Ethanol)

By Yamaha Motors France (YMF), For FJR GEN I et GENII, better it's 95, then 98, but they don't advise to using E10. It's too dry.

For GEN III, no recommendation.

In fact, on GEN I, my uncle used E10 since 5 years, and more than 60000 miles without any problems.

 

[audiowize]

If you really screw the pooch and gum up your fuel system by leaving ethanol diluted gas in your tank, worst case scenario would be buying a used fuel pump and cleaning out your injectors.

If you were asking this question about an FZ-1 with carbs, I would have a very different answer.