Feathering The Clutch On The AE

[FJRottie]

Another reason I am not sure I would get along with linked brakes as I am not sure how this would play out with an electronic controlled clutch and linked brakes.

This is the part that keeps me at bay. I still want to see one and ride one but it sounds like an idea for a track bike.

I wonder how this will perform in parking lots, gas stations, stop and go traffic etc.

Yes we all speculate but no one know for sure until it is ridden. (I think jestal is the closest IMHO given his knowledge and experience)

If it takes too much control away from the rider, no good.

Coupling this with the linked brakes ??? Are linked brakes (with ABS) superior to ABS ?? I doubt it. I can get my foot on the rear as fast as my hand on the lever. It will not brake faster or better.

One thing I know is, this system on Yamaha engages the two lower pistons on the front caliper when pressing the rear brake pedal. Many, many people come into many situations where only the rear brake is required and needed. The front brake will cause a major problem in those situations (i.e. panic stop, slow speeds, front wheel turned...front brake application means maybe fall over. GRAVEL !!)

The true esssence of motorcycling is being able to handle a bike in a situation other than straight up and in a straight line. Anyone can ride a bike, but it takes something else to "handle" the bike. Manipulating a bike at slow speeds (and you have to) is an art. I see this E stuff and LBS as a problem at slow speeds.

This clown is not paying $13,500 to find out it needs improvement.

I hope to hell that Yamaha really dealt with these ideas, but the 3 year ticking saga has me skeptical.

A good sensible debate is great. I will shut up now.

 

[TheRepairMan]

"One thing I know is, this system on Yamaha engages the two lower pistons on the front caliper when pressing the rear brake pedal. Many, many people come into many situations where only the rear brake is required and needed. The front brake will cause a major problem in those situations (i.e. panic stop, slow speeds, front wheel turned...front brake application means maybe fall over. GRAVEL !!)"

I have to turn off the highway onto my gravel driveway and when I'm on the ST with linked brakes I scrub all my speed off to a point that I'm completely off the brake and roll very smoothly into the transition. I've felt the front wheel scoot through the gravel a few times anyway but wasn't on the brake. You just have to be careful as usual.

I also understand that when the rear brake is applied with these systems that the front application is slightly behind the rear. The rear brake link induces a progressive application in the front allowing the bike to squat slightly in the rear first and then balance out in front. It happens very quickly and helps prevent front end dive since most of the braking power is up there anyway.

I had to panic stop one time out on the highway from around 60 MPH and I just jambed on both front and rear VERY hard without any surprises or instability and she stopped on a dime and spit out change. I was both amazed and elated that I could do that on a seven hundred pound bike. :blink:

As far as the AE goes ...It will work nicely I'm sure but I want mine straight shift thank you very much!

RB