FJR/Yamaha engine technology and additives

[Crash Cash]

Although I would no sooner run oil spec'ed for autos in a bike than I would run tires spec'ed for autos on a bike, I know guys who do both with seemingly minimal consequences. Their motivation is convenience, and saving money.

Well, I can say my old Gen-I SV-650 sure as hell didn't like "energy-conserving" oil! I put it in, and the clutch slipped like hell. I spent a couple hundred miles like that and changed back to Rotella T, and after another 100 miles, it stopped slipping. Just my experience.

The major advantage of the "non-unit" construction is a much lighter weight/sturdier/quieter primary drive. You can have a gear drive right off the end of the crank. With "unit" construction where the transmission's in its own case & oil, you need some sort of belt or chain drive from the crank to the input shaft. That's why Harleys have the huge side cover for the primary drive. On the good side, if the transmission goes south for any reason, you just unbolt it, instead of having to split the engine cases.

 

[edjo69]

My main point with this thread is to point out that the FJR engine, as beautifully engineered as it is, falls dead in the crosshairs of Ethanol's gun. I do not want to be forced to carry around cans of fuel additive on the bike. And I don't want to pay $10/liter for the one-and-only brand of oil that doesn't have Moly agents added. It's a scary world ahead.

I "made friends" at the local Honda shop and they sell me the HP4 without moly for $5 a quart if I buy a case, thats fine by me, thats almost 3 oil changes. I guess its all a matter of adapting to a changing world, thats changing in ways we don't like.

 

[LAF]

Well the first thing I have to say is a BMW K1200 is a dry clutch.

The new version of the K1200 (as in K1200R, K1200S, K1200Rsport, K1200GT) is a wet clutch. Of course this series has now been replaced by the K1300 (as in K1300S, K1300GT in the US, and adding K1300R in much of the rest of the world) which are also wet clutch bikes. And, of course, the K1300GT is being replaced now, along with the K1200LT (a dry clutch I believe) with the new K1600 series (K1600GT and K1600GTL) which is also wet clutch.

Say what you want about BMW, there's no shortage of new models every year, and stuff genuinely changes in a generally positive direction over time.

I was referring to my "flying brick" BMW the K1200 LT. It is a dry and pretty robust clutch as long as you do not suffer the three possible and highly probable seal failures. We drilled our clutch slave cylinder for a weep hole, so we could see if we developed a drip indicating we may have blown a seal and could catch it in time to save the dry clutch.

Not sure if the new 1600's are wet or dry?

 

[650cent]

After reading this thread I started searching for a list of gas stations that still provide fuel that does not contain any ethanol.

I located Click for non ethanol gas You can search by state for gas stations. There is also a petition on this site being signed to send to the EPA as to why they should still allow stations to sell gas without ethanol. The goal is 10,000 signatures, but they are little less than half way there.

I signed the petition. Not sure if it will do any good though. If this enhanced fuel does go into effect it will pretty much wipe out any resale value in my boat and motorcycles.

 

[edjo69]

After reading this thread I started searching for a list of gas stations that still provide fuel that does not contain any ethanol.

I located Click for non ethanol gas You can search by state for gas stations. There is also a petition on this site being signed to send to the EPA as to why they should still allow stations to sell gas without ethanol. The goal is 10,000 signatures, but they are little less than half way there.

I signed the petition. Not sure if it will do any good though. If this enhanced fuel does go into effect it will pretty much wipe out any resale value in my boat and motorcycles.

We have one station just north of town that sells Shell premium without ethanol. I fill up whenever I am out that way.

 

[El Toro]

Not sure if the new 1600's are wet or dry?

Its wet, as noted above. It is a 10 disc wet clutch with 'anti hopping function'.