FJR1300 Middle Drive Failure

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I would rule out heat-treat or bad metal. If that were the case -- there would be a lot of FJR's affected (both would be batch manufacturing processes -- regardless of lean/single-piece-flow manufacturing).

 
Cosworth DFV. Nice rod, polished beam, floater, 12 point nuts, balancing ref weight looks to be 600 grams, light for a steel rod, looks like a Carillo. Short skirt, short stroke, a revver. Tight ring stack, flat top piston, chamber does it all with a nice fast burn across the flat top.

 
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Cosworth DFV. Nice rod, polished beam, floater, 12 point nuts, balancing ref weight looks to be 600 grams, light for a steel rod, looks like a Carillo. Short skirt, short stroke, a revver. Tight ring stack, flat top piston, chamber does it all with a nice fast burn across the flat top.


Nope.

Hint: It is from a production passenger car engine.....

 
I was gonna say small block Chev, but man thats a short skirt for a Chev. Coated too, a Mahle maybe?

 
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I was gonna say small block Chev, but man thats a short skirt for a Chev. Coated too, a Mahl maybe?

That is a pre-production piston/rod from the LS7 engine that is in the Z06 Corvette. The production piston does not have a "dig out" slot for the pin retaining ring.

The rod is actually titanium.

To all of what you said....Yes!...that is what it takes to make 505 HP and turn over 7000 RPM with a 427 "small block".

It is a Mahle piston.

Just happen to have one as a paper weight and convenient prop..... :D

 
From what I can tell from the pictures this is a pretty odd failure.....
From the lubrication standpoint...

From the condition of the splines...

More evidence of this is...

My vote based purely on speculation...

A right angle drive gear like that has...
To sum it all up,
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Pimply 13 year-old yer ass!

 
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WoW, this threads been around the world. Looks like a simple case of Fretting Corrosion (dissimilar metals-heat treat differences, etc) to me. Looks like the gear was installed on the shaft with out proper lube (to keep out air out between the parts) and then bolted down tightly. Corrosive air can't get out & oil can't get in-centrifugal force does sling the oil out away from the shaft, doesn't it. Does this joint (maybe air tite) suck when cooling down. Hmmm Not air tite-see the corrosion on the gear away from the spline. Seen this same joint failure a few times in my various plants. Now, it would be interesting for U guys who are disassembling their engines (for other reasons) to take this gear off their shaft just to check.

Merry Christmas U guys & gals, Later,,, De :)

 
It should be firmly clamped up in an actual press situation so the motion on the splines would be virtually zero.....unless....the nut were not tightened sufficiently. If that were the case then the gear could fret around on the splines and wear and fatigue them over time and lots of miles.
Now, it would be interesting for U guys who are disassembling their engines (for other reasons) to take this gear off their shaft just to check.
So who's gonna be the first to go in there and see if theirs is properly tightened? Hmmm, somebody who is capable, yet not riding due to climate restrictions, or busy working on snowmobiles....A heated garage would be beneficial....Radman?

 
So who's gonna be the first to go in there and see if theirs is properly tightened? Hmmm, somebody who is capable, yet not riding due to climate restrictions, or busy working on snowmobiles....A heated garage would be beneficial....Radman?
Well I tell ya, there's nobody that spends more time than me fixing things that aren't broke. And this one really did peak my curiosity initialy and had me rushing to the toolbox. But a one time occurance with all the FJR miles accumulated to date makes this a "pass" even for me. I do believe it was due to insufficient torque of the retaining nut and is most likely a one time occurance. If the factory torque recomendation was too low there would be alot more of these instances. Probably just a Friday afternoon gearbox.

 
Well I tell ya, there's nobody that spends more time than me fixing things that aren't broke.
Pffffft! You don't recall Fred H. then, eh? Hell, he's already out there fixing the new C14 and the damn thing ain't even in production yet!

 

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