Mount Rainier
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A – the model year of your FJR - 2008
B – the number of miles on your FJR when the cam chain noise became apparent - 56K
C – what action did you take, i.e., replace the CCT yourself, have the dealer do the work, ignore the noise, etc., and at what mileage - Had dealer replace it at 73K
D – did replacing the CCT eliminate the problem, i.e., the chain noise - Yes
E – was the problem diagnosed by a dealer and if so, dealer name and specifics - I first noticed the noise at an oil change. I always wear earplugs and helmet and bike warm-up is done with gear in place and I'm off. The only time I have needed to run the motor for warm-up purposes other than to leave for a ride is at oil changes. I warmed the bike up and as it idled down to normal RPMs, after 4 min. +/-, I immediately noticed a clicking sound not heard before.
I ran by the dealer that performs my maintenance and ask for their opinion. The asst. service manager at Renton Motorcycle Company, in Renton, WA came out and listened and suggested it was the CCT making the noise. He indicated that it was not common to have to replace the CCT on a Gen 2 FJR with so few miles and felt it was not serious enough to install a new one at that time. He did indicate that when a new CCT is installed it would be with a newer version as there had been a design update. (Here's a bit of added input. - It seemed to me after I first heard the clicking at 56K, I didn't hear it under normal operation, meaning at stop lights or short term setting at idle even though I was more sensitive to it. But again, earplugs and helmet.)
The service manager also indicated that if I hear the same noise start to develop at at a higher RPM, which I never have, it should be attended to by making the switch.
Coincidentally, while at the PNW Tech Day on Oct.1, there was a CCT change performed (at about 30K) and a bit of discussion about it being more of a preventative maintenance issue than a failure problem. With that bit of info, I asked an attendee to listen to my motor and upon the final RPM drop to 1100 rpm, the noise occurred right on schedule. George (escapefjrtist) felt the prudent thing to do would be to get it switched out ASAP. I was now at 73K on the clock.
Enough said and when the dealer opened on Tue. I contacted the asst. service manage and asked if he could get the switch completed by that Fri. as I had a long scheduled ride planned for the week-end. He said he would get the parts, (CCT and gasket) shipped in and make the switch on Friday. Took the bike in on Wed. and the next day I was informed the part had arrived. I spoke to the Tech who has done all the work on my FJR and he indicated that he had performed very few CCT replacements on FJR's with this low mileage but that after hearing mine upon start-up Friday morning, he also agreed to was a good idea to go ahead and install the newer unit. I picked up the bike Fri. afternoon and was charged $35.00 Labor and $89.00 for the parts. RMC was having a 20% off parts and accessories promotion through Oct.
The Tech didn't show major concern about the CCT noise, in terms of a real urgency to replace it, but again, was in agreement that it would be the responsible thing to do at this time, given the major consequences of a failure.
F – were there any problems related to the CCT failure, i.e., cylinder head damage/engine replacement - N/A
G – if the repair/replacement was performed by a dealer, how many days - Two days to get the part and an hour to R/R.
H – paid for by Yamaha or not/under conventional warranty or Y.E.S - Out of pocket expense.
I – have you replaced your CCT more than once, including how many times, mileage at replacements - No
J – did the chain noise begin randomly, or did it begin following valve adjustment, where the CCT needed to be de-tensioned to facilitate cam removal - Randomly
K - if you are needing to change your CCT are you confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient or are you considering replacement with a manual aftermarket design - Confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient.
B – the number of miles on your FJR when the cam chain noise became apparent - 56K
C – what action did you take, i.e., replace the CCT yourself, have the dealer do the work, ignore the noise, etc., and at what mileage - Had dealer replace it at 73K
D – did replacing the CCT eliminate the problem, i.e., the chain noise - Yes
E – was the problem diagnosed by a dealer and if so, dealer name and specifics - I first noticed the noise at an oil change. I always wear earplugs and helmet and bike warm-up is done with gear in place and I'm off. The only time I have needed to run the motor for warm-up purposes other than to leave for a ride is at oil changes. I warmed the bike up and as it idled down to normal RPMs, after 4 min. +/-, I immediately noticed a clicking sound not heard before.
I ran by the dealer that performs my maintenance and ask for their opinion. The asst. service manager at Renton Motorcycle Company, in Renton, WA came out and listened and suggested it was the CCT making the noise. He indicated that it was not common to have to replace the CCT on a Gen 2 FJR with so few miles and felt it was not serious enough to install a new one at that time. He did indicate that when a new CCT is installed it would be with a newer version as there had been a design update. (Here's a bit of added input. - It seemed to me after I first heard the clicking at 56K, I didn't hear it under normal operation, meaning at stop lights or short term setting at idle even though I was more sensitive to it. But again, earplugs and helmet.)
The service manager also indicated that if I hear the same noise start to develop at at a higher RPM, which I never have, it should be attended to by making the switch.
Coincidentally, while at the PNW Tech Day on Oct.1, there was a CCT change performed (at about 30K) and a bit of discussion about it being more of a preventative maintenance issue than a failure problem. With that bit of info, I asked an attendee to listen to my motor and upon the final RPM drop to 1100 rpm, the noise occurred right on schedule. George (escapefjrtist) felt the prudent thing to do would be to get it switched out ASAP. I was now at 73K on the clock.
Enough said and when the dealer opened on Tue. I contacted the asst. service manage and asked if he could get the switch completed by that Fri. as I had a long scheduled ride planned for the week-end. He said he would get the parts, (CCT and gasket) shipped in and make the switch on Friday. Took the bike in on Wed. and the next day I was informed the part had arrived. I spoke to the Tech who has done all the work on my FJR and he indicated that he had performed very few CCT replacements on FJR's with this low mileage but that after hearing mine upon start-up Friday morning, he also agreed to was a good idea to go ahead and install the newer unit. I picked up the bike Fri. afternoon and was charged $35.00 Labor and $89.00 for the parts. RMC was having a 20% off parts and accessories promotion through Oct.
The Tech didn't show major concern about the CCT noise, in terms of a real urgency to replace it, but again, was in agreement that it would be the responsible thing to do at this time, given the major consequences of a failure.
F – were there any problems related to the CCT failure, i.e., cylinder head damage/engine replacement - N/A
G – if the repair/replacement was performed by a dealer, how many days - Two days to get the part and an hour to R/R.
H – paid for by Yamaha or not/under conventional warranty or Y.E.S - Out of pocket expense.
I – have you replaced your CCT more than once, including how many times, mileage at replacements - No
J – did the chain noise begin randomly, or did it begin following valve adjustment, where the CCT needed to be de-tensioned to facilitate cam removal - Randomly
K - if you are needing to change your CCT are you confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient or are you considering replacement with a manual aftermarket design - Confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient.
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