FJRF009.2: "Intermittent Ground Wire Connection"

[SullyCuse]

I spoke w/ Lawrenceville Honda Yamaha dealer in Lawrenceville, GA, as has my friend Andy. They have our fix wiring on order and will call us when they are in to get fixed. He is not certain as to how long a replacement wiring harness would to take get if there is an issue w/ the S4. I am hoping, as mentioned in an earlier post, that if there is a problem, they will button it up and let me have my bike back until the replacement harness gets in to be replaced. Although hot as hell here in Georgia, I still want to ride if I feel like it.

 

[SullyCuse]

Oh, BTW, I got Art's harness fixes in the mail today. They will get installed as soon as the recall work gets completed. I still feel, imho, this is the superior fix for the long haul.

 

[zzzzip]

Maybe some quality was lost in the .pdf conversion, I don't know. Those are the most useless pictures ever.

I wouldn't sweat the version of PDF file we're seeing as being a "source". Chances are they faxed it to NHTSA and is degraded compared to the source (and likely copyrighted) version on the Yamaha network.

What he said...

I happen to stop in the Yamaha dealer Saturday morning, and asked if they had heard about the recall. They had received the recall bulletin the day before. He printed the "Tech Bulletin" out for me (14 pages) without being asked to.

Photos are good enough for even a dummy like me to understand what to look for and how to fix it.

FWIW-- page 2 states: "It is not necessary to install the wire sub-lead on a replacement wire harness."

 

[Pat C]

Are we supposed to receive a recall notification in the mail or are we supposed contact dealer?

 

[becoyote]

Anyone have the recall done and still plan on doing the Broadie mod?

 

[cwa]

Dealer near me has one fix available but the harness is not due in until first week of august. They will get my bike when they have both fixes available. My bike will not sit in the shop waiting on parts unless it's broke now.

 

[SullyCuse]

Anyone have the recall done and still plan on doing the Broadie mod?

My buddy and I are doing the recall, and then doing then putting on Art's harness. So yes, we are still doing a mod by one of the fellows here on the forum, once the recall work is completed.

 

[not2shabby]

I plan on leaving Art's harnesses on and remove the tupperware before riding in to have the recall done. I doubt if they'll even notice Art's work. Shame.

 

[Quality Guy]

I would like to know when the first new harness assembly is installed under the recall. My bike has been in the shop for over two weeks. I am considering initiation of a class-action lawsuit for denial of use. Anyone have any legal knowledge? Is this possible? Maybe we could get Yamaha to pony up for rental vehicles.

 

[FiveG]

I still haven't gotten my notice. Odd.

Re the class action idea, given the likely "damages" (which would be a credit or cash towards, what, a one month rental at most, per unit?) the big winner in such a suit would be the lawyers. (That's esp. true in this case as the case wouldn't move towards any kind of adjudication until long after the recalls are done, most likely.)

Meanwhile the company that provides parts and services for our FJRs would incur major-league costs and disruptions at a time when (i) what we all really want is to get the issues dealt with and (ii) it's already under financial strains. Personally, I'd prefer that Yamaha just get the job done.

In my mind, the proper way to respond is to remember this when selecting one's next motorcycle. If Yamaha comes through quickly, they are in the good guys list. If they end up leaving a bunch of owners high and dry, that's a factor to remember next time you're developing your short list for a purchase.

 

[Quality Guy]

FiveG - Do you have an interest or are you employed by Yamaha? Some of your comments seem very similar to what I was told by Cypress corporate. Since Yamaha knew of the problem for years, I would think they had adequate time to develop a recovery plan that would minimally affect the owners.

I know that Yamaha monitors this board and might be encouraged to reconsider rental reimbursment after consideration of another class action lawsuit.

 

[Fairlaner]

Got my spider recall in mail yesterday, anyone else get theirs yet?

R

 

[FiveG]

FiveG - Do you have an interest or are you employed by Yamaha? Some of your comments seem very similar to what I was told by Cypress corporate. Since Yamaha knew of the problem for years, I would think they had adequate time to develop a recovery plan that would minimally affect the owners.

I don't want to turn this into a flame war, but it always amazes me that when people (in general) don't like a message or response, their first reaction is to presume that the disagree-er has some vested interest against them.

No, I don't work for Yamaha. My only "interests" in Yamaha are (a) the FJR in my garage and ( B) getting it fixed.

My comments are based upon some degree of experience in and reading about class action cases. If you consider all the ones most of us have been "class members" in, as a general matter you end up, after a protracted process, with a coupon that can only be used if you buy more of the product (or maybe a credit on your upcoming bills), and the class plaintiff's attorneys get a fee.

I agree Yamaha should have had a recovery plan -- prudent companies do when faced with a recall. Given how long this issue has been hashed around here, it is hard to understand why they don't, and from what it looks like, it would seem that they basically got dragged to the woodshed by NHTSA and are now coping. But, we are dealing with cards we have, which is the current supply situation (undoubtedly complicated by the Tsunami/Nuke situation).

BTW, if you (or anyone else) truly can't ride your FJR for some time, nothing prevents you from bringing a lawsuit for damages, provided that there is a legal basis and provable damages.

 

[becoyote]

Just got a call from the dealer. There was damage to the ground and they will be replacing the entire wiring harness.

Wiring harness is on back order. :angry2:

At least it isn't my only bike.

 

[El Toro Joe]

So...what's it say? :blink:

 

[Jim Morrison]

Not yet, but the dealer called me and told me the parts should be in today.....

 

[Fred W]

We'll want to get a look at the full recall action, not just the customer notice. The customer letter will probably not get into the specifics of the repair.

 

[Checkswrecks]

FiveG - Do you have an interest or are you employed by Yamaha? Some of your comments seem very similar to what I was told by Cypress corporate. Since Yamaha knew of the problem for years, I would think they had adequate time to develop a recovery plan that would minimally affect the owners.

I don't want to turn this into a flame war, but it always amazes me that when people (in general) don't like a message or response, their first reaction is to presume that the disagree-er has some vested interest against them.

No, I don't work for Yamaha. My only "interests" in Yamaha are (a) the FJR in my garage and ( B) getting it fixed.

My comments are based upon some degree of experience in and reading about class action cases. If you consider all the ones most of us have been "class members" in, as a general matter you end up, after a protracted process, with a coupon that can only be used if you buy more of the product (or maybe a credit on your upcoming bills), and the class plaintiff's attorneys get a fee.

I agree Yamaha should have had a recovery plan -- prudent companies do when faced with a recall. Given how long this issue has been hashed around here, it is hard to understand why they don't, and from what it looks like, it would seem that they basically got dragged to the woodshed by NHTSA and are now coping. But, we are dealing with cards we have, which is the current supply situation (undoubtedly complicated by the Tsunami/Nuke situation).

BTW, if you (or anyone else) truly can't ride your FJR for some time, nothing prevents you from bringing a lawsuit for damages, provided that there is a legal basis and provable damages.

In addition to everything that FiveG wrote, think of this. Lawsuits are for the recovery of damages and in monetary terms and motorcycles are seen as recreational vehicles. Just how big of a monetary loss do you think you can convince a judge that you suffered for being without your "recreational vehicle" for a few weeks?

:blink:

 

[ScottyUSN]

I contacted Yamaha just now to one confirm I am in the system, and also double check my ignition recall had been conducted.

The rep was very helpful and informative. He made mention the 2300 parts recall kits in the system for those who do not need a harness repalcement due to failure. The waiting problem is/will be for those who need a harness replaced due to failure or signs of failure. There are no harnesses in stock.

 

[cwa]

Received my letter today, no repair specifics just a notice to contact your dealer and set up the repair for a possible ground joint connector failure. My dealer says harness possibly available first of August.