GeorgiaRoller
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I need of Phooking drink now! Where's my JD Honey Bourbon???But did you have to test out that new attitude so early in the season?
Footpeg Warning - GA Statute 40-6-314(a)?
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fastpappy
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Whew! When you guys say "do a search" you're not fooling around.
wheatonFJR
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balance oh padewan...use the force!
zenwhipper
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Perhaps an honest mistake from the officer. Can you fight it?
Having said that- let's assume for the moment that the statute did say you need to keep your feet on the pegs at all times - obviously, you were complying with the spirit and intent of the law. This is where the officer needs to step back and take a freakin' head check. I mean come on!
Scott
Having said that- let's assume for the moment that the statute did say you need to keep your feet on the pegs at all times - obviously, you were complying with the spirit and intent of the law. This is where the officer needs to step back and take a freakin' head check. I mean come on!
Scott
wheatonFJR
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The battle has been fought and won. Read Roller's well done research in this thread. A good read...
Greg 03
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POST OF THE YEAR!I can neither confirm nor deny the denial of any non-existent lists that may or may not exist in the super secret cop world where we are all possiby turned into super secret ninjas that are like Superman and Batman combined....but what if Zilla is makin' all that up to distract us from our pursuit of the truth? (anyone ever watch the X-Files?)I mean if there really is a list..."they" wouldnt want us to know about it now would they?? ....did we get too close Zilla? Thats a lotta typing to dispel such a simple myth no?
Are we all now on "the list" now as troublemakers???
All Kidding aside...This has been a very informational threadThanks GR ... and My paranoia is a little lower... Thank you Zilla!
I actually wish some of the rumors I hear about us were true. It would make catching bad guys way easier. I keep waiting for our Pre-Crime unit to get off the ground, but our psychics get all weirded out in the pool. Maybe if they used lime Jello and stopped trying to drown those chicks.
If I knew all this stuff, I could be like Santa Clause and know where all the naughty girls live.
Glad you feel better BWV, but I know what you did last summer, so watch out. Also, stop wearing those pajama pants to bed. It's freaking my survillance guy out.
bwv
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Hehehe.. those arent pajama pants... I'm just old and saggy
By that alone, you might well have saved some of us from the unpleasant experience of being pulled over. And thanks to all who pointed out that standing up to stretch may be interpreted as stunting; I had no clue about that and will be careful where and when I do it in the future.
hppants
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"If I issue a warning, many times I tell the recipient the warning will shown up for 90 days, so please slow down, use your blinker, wear your seat belt, pay attention. In reality, someone can have 300 warnings in their glovebox and neither me nor anyone else would know. The story about dismissed citations showing up on a driving record is a lie. Hell, sometimes convictions don't show up. That isn't magic either."
HRZ's post really intrigued me. I called one of my immediate supervisors, who happens to be a 25 year veteran police officer and the current police chief of our University. He confirmed that written warnings do not wind up anywhere on someone's permanent driving record. I then wondered what is the point in using the written warning then? He replied that most veteran road cops don't use them at all. If they exercise discretion, they simply give a verbal warning and be on their way. I should have known this from the beginning - I've read thousands of ODRs in my life and I've never seen anything resembling a "warning" - only guilty or no-contender pleas. The only exception is that I also see "Submit to Alcohol Test" occasionally. For my own purposes, I am to treat that like a guilty/no-contender plea. But I'm not clear about the legality of this - is that considered a conviction? That doesn't sound like it abides by the Presumption of Innocence concept. I'm going to research it some more.
HRZ's post really intrigued me. I called one of my immediate supervisors, who happens to be a 25 year veteran police officer and the current police chief of our University. He confirmed that written warnings do not wind up anywhere on someone's permanent driving record. I then wondered what is the point in using the written warning then? He replied that most veteran road cops don't use them at all. If they exercise discretion, they simply give a verbal warning and be on their way. I should have known this from the beginning - I've read thousands of ODRs in my life and I've never seen anything resembling a "warning" - only guilty or no-contender pleas. The only exception is that I also see "Submit to Alcohol Test" occasionally. For my own purposes, I am to treat that like a guilty/no-contender plea. But I'm not clear about the legality of this - is that considered a conviction? That doesn't sound like it abides by the Presumption of Innocence concept. I'm going to research it some more.
GeorgiaRoller
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I agree. I told the Clerk & PD Captain that 1. I want to make sure I understand the riding laws correctly myself and 2. If the officer is in error that I didn't want him pulling over other motorcyclist and issuing warnings or worse yet starting to write actual citations over this.
I hope the Captain does follow through & has talked to the officer. Based on how the Clerk & Captain sounded on the phone, my gut feeling is that he will. They know that route along the ridge is popular with motorcycle riders. That particular PD should be up to speed on the motorcycle laws even more so IMO.
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Redfish Hunter
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Georgia Roller, congratulations. Your posts without your wonderful photographs are just as beneficial to this forum as the RRs with your pics. My compliments on reporting something very interesting and then taking the time to research it all the way through. The best part of it all was the entertainment value of the forum responses.
HotRodZilla, you are to be commended for the concise, professional, and businesslike manner of your calm and well thought out responses. Who knew that all those doughnuts would benefit your brain capacity? Honestly, two awesome and impressive posts my friend. I kept waiting and waiting for your 2 cents. You came through with flying colors.
What have I learned here?
1) Don't drag your feet while riding in Georgia.
2) Don't stand on your pegs while riding anywhere.
3) Avoid New Mexico. Entirely.
HotRodZilla, you are to be commended for the concise, professional, and businesslike manner of your calm and well thought out responses. Who knew that all those doughnuts would benefit your brain capacity? Honestly, two awesome and impressive posts my friend. I kept waiting and waiting for your 2 cents. You came through with flying colors.
What have I learned here?
1) Don't drag your feet while riding in Georgia.
2) Don't stand on your pegs while riding anywhere.
3) Avoid New Mexico. Entirely.
wheatonFJR
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Me First!!!Next time I am in New Mexico, I am doing a ride-along with 'Zilla and we are going to be pulling over many a hawt woman driver or rider for a chit-chat.
bwv
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I want in on this ^^^^^^^^
Redfish Hunter
Gone Fishing
WTH? I've seen pics of you Wheatie and you are not a "Hawt Woman". A bit feminine maybe...Me First!!!Next time I am in New Mexico, I am doing a ride-along with 'Zilla and we are going to be pulling over many a hawt woman driver or rider for a chit-chat.
Of course, we are drifting toward Split Off Topic territory now.
Just playing Devil's Advocate here, I assume it might be possible that all police officers in all parts of the country don't play by the same rules and don't do exactly the same thing. I mean, just because 'Zilla and friends do something in Albuqueerke does not mean that the police in Georgia do it that way.
Also, considering what I have seen of the Mountain regions of Georgia, Tennessee, and North Carolina, I would bet that the Tourism Dollars spent by visiting motorcycles would have a moderating influence on the police force's attitude. Not saying they would not do their job, just saying they might be inclined toward tolerance.
HotRodZilla
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I've said it before and I'll say it now. SOMETHING is wrong with cops east if the Mississippi. I have been to training in Alabama and New York. I have seen some weird stuff, so I try to not generalize too much, knowing you easterners are weird. Other stuff is the same country wide.
If you boys want, you can come ride with me. Just remember you'll have to pass a background check, and I know that's an issue for a couple of you. I may have to have you ride in the back. I'll give you a black squirt gun, and we'll drive around freaking people out. Lol...
If you boys want, you can come ride with me. Just remember you'll have to pass a background check, and I know that's an issue for a couple of you. I may have to have you ride in the back. I'll give you a black squirt gun, and we'll drive around freaking people out. Lol...
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wheatonFJR
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I'm not gonna get political...
...but the KGB wouldn't give a lick for what some English dood quoted years ago.
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