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Just 1 month after suffering a compound fracture to his lower leg, he tested today on a WSK spec R1. He did 2 sessions - 1 14 lap session and 1 10 lap session.

Oh yeah...unless something falls through last minute, he'll be on a Ducati next year.

 
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Ducati next year? Does that mean Hayden or Stoner is out?
Stoner to Honda

Pedro likely to stay at Honda

Dovi likely to be on a factory Honda, but, on a satellite team as each MotoGP team can have a max 2 riders.

Spies up to Factory Yamaha

Not sure if anything is in ink yet, but, that's how it's looking right now.

 
Randy,
I am always impressed with all the inside knowledge you have on motorcycle racing.
I'm no insider. All I do is pass on the info that the carrier pigeons drop on my front door. Sometimes the messages are from good sources and sometimes the messages are nothing more than pigeon poop.

 
Their math is a bit off from what was posted above, but this is from my corkscrew newsletter from Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca.

ROSSI BACK?

Valentino Rossi rode a motorcycle for the first time today since breaking his right leg at Mugello on 5th June. He rode a total of 26 laps at Misano on a YZF-R1 WSB machine, provided by the Yamaha World Superbike Team, and recorded a best time of 1'38.200.

The reigning World Champion was able to ride well but he had some pain in his leg and his shoulder. He will now continue with an updated rehabilitation program and make a decision within the next week as to whether he will ride at the German Grand Prix at Sachsenring, in ten days time.

"We made this test in order to understand how we must work from here and to see more or less how I can ride the bike," said Rossi. "The test was positive, because I can at least ride, but there is a lot more to a MotoGP race than to a test like this one. I had some pain in the ankle, the knee and the shoulder, but above all I lacked strength in the shoulder and a bit of movement in the ankle. I would really like to come back at Sachsenring, but it is still too early to say. We still have twelve days and we must wait and see how much we can improve my condition in the next few days. The Superbike today was good and great fun to ride! I really would like to ride at Sachsenring, but we must wait another week before making a decision."

 
"Great fun." I would be so puckered riding at half his pace. :eek:

Some people are just so amazing it makes me wonder what it's like to be them.

 
Their math is a bit off from what was posted above, but this is from my corkscrew newsletter from Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca.
ROSSI BACK?

Valentino Rossi rode a motorcycle for the first time today since breaking his right leg at Mugello on 5th June. He rode a total of 26 laps at Misano on a YZF-R1 WSB machine, provided by the Yamaha World Superbike Team, and recorded a best time of 1'38.200.

The reigning World Champion was able to ride well but he had some pain in his leg and his shoulder. He will now continue with an updated rehabilitation program and make a decision within the next week as to whether he will ride at the German Grand Prix at Sachsenring, in ten days time.

"We made this test in order to understand how we must work from here and to see more or less how I can ride the bike," said Rossi. "The test was positive, because I can at least ride, but there is a lot more to a MotoGP race than to a test like this one. I had some pain in the ankle, the knee and the shoulder, but above all I lacked strength in the shoulder and a bit of movement in the ankle. I would really like to come back at Sachsenring, but it is still too early to say. We still have twelve days and we must wait and see how much we can improve my condition in the next few days. The Superbike today was good and great fun to ride! I really would like to ride at Sachsenring, but we must wait another week before making a decision."
They probably counted the out or in laps. He did 2 sessions - 1 10 lap and 1 14 lap. If they count an out or in lap (but not both) for each session, it would be 26.

btw - that's about 1.8 or so seconds off of Crutchlow's best lap from the race in June.

 
"Great fun." I would be so puckered riding at half his pace. :eek:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah -- well said. Skid marks inside the leathers for me -- especially in some of his passes.** No way would I ever believe that the bike would still have traction at those lean angles in corners at his corner speeds. :eek:

** Can imagine it now, pulling into the pit, the crew grimacing and looking at me funny: "WTF?!? You **** yourself, didn't you?"

 
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With 3 HRC riders and a max of 2 riders per team, not sure if the 3rd rider will be on one of the existing satellite teams with that team being fed full factory bikes/support or if Honda will really go to a brand new, posssibly 1 rider, team. If they create a new team, Red Bull may be the title sponsor. Pedro and Dovi already have Red Bull tie-ins, so, chances are likely that it will be one of them.

 
The rule reads:

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To define a ‘typical’ team competing in MotoGP is not simple, but Grand Prix teams in the main consist of financial backers, management staff, administrative staff, press officers, a group of mechanics, and of course the riders themselves.

Teams in the MotoGP class are generally comprised of two riders and in addition to the riders' and constructors' (manufacturers) World Championships, the teams compete for a title of their own. All points scored by both riders in a team, including substitutes or replacements, but excluding wildcard entries, count towards the Teams World Championship title - which is presented each year at the end of season MotoGP Awards.

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The official announcement came today, and for HRC's part, they are presently saying that they will run with all 3 (Stoner, Pedrosa, and Dovizioso). The rule just says that teams typically have two riders, it doesn't restrict them to no more than two. I have seen some cases in the past when there were three for a race because of a wild card addition. This would be the first one that I can recall where their intent is to run with three for the season. If anyone's pockets are deep enough to do it, HRC is the one.

Lots of time for speculation about who else will go where....

The Rossi speculation comes up every year. Maybe he's going to Ducati, but if he is, it signals to me that he is done trying to win. Anyone who's watched the Ducatis in the 800cc era has seen rider after rider fail to become competitive. Nicky Hayden is just now coming into some level of competitiveness, and even then, podiums are tough to come by. I know Hayden is no Rossi .... but neither is Hayden a Talmacsi.

In my view, if Rossi wants to keep chasing Ago, he will have a better chance if he stays with Fiat Yamaha.

Of course if Burgess also moves to Ducati, and that is also part of the speculation, then Burgess might bring Ducati up quite a bit, and this might be more valuable for their program than having Rossi as a rider .... not more lucrative from a marketing point of view, but better for their long term technical development.

I can't believe that Rossi thinks he might ride at Sachsenring, but seeing him back on an R1 after the sort of break he had is incredible. I guess he's still young enough to heal quickly, plus I'm sure every modern method to accelerate his recovery is being used. The R1 that he used at Misano has now moved on with the FIM team, so he's not going to be back on a bike until FP1 at Sachsenring, and then they'll decide what to do.

 
The official announcement came today, and for HRC's part, they are presently saying that they will run with all 3 (Stoner, Pedrosa, and Dovizioso). The rule just says that teams typically have two riders, it doesn't restrict them to no more than two. I have seen some cases in the past when there were three for a race because of a wild card addition. This would be the first one that I can recall where their intent is to run with three for the season. If anyone's pockets are deep enough to do it, HRC is the one.
With the team points, they can't have more than 2. When there are wildcard riders, the wildcard points are not counted towards the team points.

The Rossi speculation comes up every year. Maybe he's going to Ducati, but if he is, it signals to me that he is done trying to win. Anyone who's watched the Ducatis in the 800cc era has seen rider after rider fail to become competitive. Nicky Hayden is just now coming into some level of competitiveness, and even then, podiums are tough to come by. I know Hayden is no Rossi .... but neither is Hayden a Talmacsi.
In my view, if Rossi wants to keep chasing Ago, he will have a better chance if he stays with Fiat Yamaha.

Of course if Burgess also moves to Ducati, and that is also part of the speculation, then Burgess might bring Ducati up quite a bit, and this might be more valuable for their program than having Rossi as a rider .... not more lucrative from a marketing point of view, but better for their long term technical development.
The Ducati isn't competitive? 1st year of of the 800s, Stoner won the championship on a Ducati. 2008, Rossi wins 9, Stoner wins 6 on the Ducati. In 2009, Stoner sat out a couple races and still won 4 times.

Many thought Rossi couldn't win on Yamaha. It was an uncompetitive turd. I don't think the Duc is uncompetitive. Many have learned to quit doubting Rossi.

Additionally, with the switch to 1000s in 2012, it will give them a year with Rossi to fine tune the new bike to his liking.

I can't believe that Rossi thinks he might ride at Sachsenring, but seeing him back on an R1 after the sort of break he had is incredible. I guess he's still young enough to heal quickly, plus I'm sure every modern method to accelerate his recovery is being used. The R1 that he used at Misano has now moved on with the FIM team, so he's not going to be back on a bike until FP1 at Sachsenring, and then they'll decide what to do.
Again, many have learned to quit doubting Rossi.

 
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Name one other guy who's been able to ride the Ducati to the podium besides Stoner.

Nicky has come closer than anyone besides Stoner, and Stoner is leaving. Even he has been struggling since 2007.

Ducati is not competitive for anyone who's name isn't Stoner. There's nothing to support an argument that they are.

As for the rules..... they are what they are. You can go and referee with HRC and explain to them why they can't have another rider.

I don't know if they'll set up a second team, but I do know that the last thing Dorna or FIM wants is for Honda to walk. They will be accommodated. You can take that to the bank.

I see this is my 900th post.

Since the FJR is gone, it make sense to finish it up myself.

I'm enjoying the MotoGP season. Sachsenring is always one of my favorite events.

Tschüss!

 
The R1 that he used at Misano has now moved on with the FIM team, so he's not going to be back on a bike until FP1 at Sachsenring, and then they'll decide what to do.
He's riding the R1 again today at Brno. Should be an announcement later today saying if he will/won't ride at Sachsenring.

 
He's riding the R1 again today at Brno. Should be an announcement later today saying if he will/won't ride at Sachsenring.
...and lapped at 1:59.135 - better than Crutchlow's race lap record of 1:59.291. He's riding Toseland's bike - Toseland's best time on the bike was 1:59.699 in superpole.

Still no word on the announcement for Sachsenring, but, will keep my eyes and ears open. He ran about 46 laps and had some pain, but, feels better than he did last week.

 
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He's riding the R1 again today at Brno. Should be an announcement later today saying if he will/won't ride at Sachsenring.
...and lapped at 1:59.135 - better than Crutchlow's race lap record of 1:59.291. He's riding Toseland's bike - Toseland's best time on the bike was 1:59.699 in superpole.

Still no word on the announcement for Sachsenring, but, will keep my eyes and ears open. He ran about 46 laps and had some pain, but, feels better than he did last week.
Thanks Randy, Jeez the guy can out ride most on a broken leg. What a stud.

 
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