mamiya67
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I need some help on what frame sliders to get for my 2007. :glare:
I believe the general consensus on aluminum sliders is a thumbs down. Many believe that aluminum sliders catch on the pavement more easily and then are solid enough to cause frame damage (actually, it has happened; not just an opinion), whereas a slider made out of a plastic-like material will slide, grind down, and/or deform/break in a serious slide, rather than breaking your frame. Keep in mind that sliders are primarily intended to protect the plastic in low-speed and zero mph tip-overs; not to protect your plastic/frame when sliding at high speeds. I'd rather my slider and plastic get damages in a faster slide than my frame.Frame Slider Material Motovation Accessories uses a proprietary High Molecular Density (HMD) formulation of nylon. This nylon is impregnated during the extrusion process with UV inhibitors to resist destabilization of the molecular matrix and discoloration during prolonged UV exposure. This formulation is also molybdenum disulfide infused to give it the same lubricating properties as Delrin. This formulation is 75% more resistant to abrasion than Delrin and exhibits a reduced propensity to "chunk off" or "break off" during extended abrasive events and it's 'slickness' reduces it 'grabby-ness' during slides that may cause your bike to tumble and cause more damage.
What about Delrin or ABS?
Many frame slider manufacturers use them because it much softer, much cheaper and easier to machine, i.e. the material flakes off readily in a lathe and is much easier on the tools. The reason why Delrin is easier to work with therefore makes it a much less suitable choice than our selection for frame slider material. Notice in the pictures on the left that our material shows stringy edges at the point of abrasion. Delrin does not do this. It will chunk and break off on impact much more readily. Furthermore, Delrin is not UV stabilized and will discolor or turn grey in sunlight which will further downgrade it's structural strength. If you see a set of sliders that have been on a bike for a while and they are greying, they are most likely made of Delrin. When it is in that condition they will already have been destabilized by UV and will most likely crack when subjected to impact forces.
+1 OES is a great price and a great product. Be careful of the e-bay stuff unless it's OES or one of the brands listed above.I very recently purchased a set of these for my '07. Replaced my old Skyway Delrin sliders. Really like the OES product. Much better design.
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:clapping: Thanks for the help--I'm gonna get the OES sliders. WOW $49.99I very recently purchased a set of these for my '07. Replaced my old Skyway Delrin sliders. Really like the OES product. Much better design.
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Good Choice!:clapping: Thanks for the help--I'm gonna get the OES sliders. WOW $49.99I very recently purchased a set of these for my '07. Replaced my old Skyway Delrin sliders. Really like the OES product. Much better design.
OESaccessories
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I noticed that the OES sliders are made of Delrin which Motivation states are inferior to their material, however, Motivations cost twice as much!I was going to post the obligatory "try searching with Google" response, but my quick test of the search didn't find anything too useful: https://www.google.com/search?q=sliders+site:fjrforum.com
I have the Motovation sliders and am happy with them. There are less expensive options out there, but be careful. Some of the plastic type sliders do not have an aluminum/steel collar, so the slider compresses as you torque down the bolt, then the bolt can loosen over time as the slider continues to deform under the pressure.
Here's Motovation's explanation for why their sliders are better:
I believe the general consensus on aluminum sliders is a thumbs down. Many believe that aluminum sliders catch on the pavement more easily and then are solid enough to cause frame damage (actually, it has happened; not just an opinion), whereas a slider made out of a plastic-like material will slide, grind down, and/or deform/break in a serious slide, rather than breaking your frame. Keep in mind that sliders are primarily intended to protect the plastic in low-speed and zero mph tip-overs; not to protect your plastic/frame when sliding at high speeds. I'd rather my slider and plastic get damages in a faster slide than my frame.Frame Slider Material Motovation Accessories uses a proprietary High Molecular Density (HMD) formulation of nylon. This nylon is impregnated during the extrusion process with UV inhibitors to resist destabilization of the molecular matrix and discoloration during prolonged UV exposure. This formulation is also molybdenum disulfide infused to give it the same lubricating properties as Delrin. This formulation is 75% more resistant to abrasion than Delrin and exhibits a reduced propensity to "chunk off" or "break off" during extended abrasive events and it's 'slickness' reduces it 'grabby-ness' during slides that may cause your bike to tumble and cause more damage.
What about Delrin or ABS?
Many frame slider manufacturers use them because it much softer, much cheaper and easier to machine, i.e. the material flakes off readily in a lathe and is much easier on the tools. The reason why Delrin is easier to work with therefore makes it a much less suitable choice than our selection for frame slider material. Notice in the pictures on the left that our material shows stringy edges at the point of abrasion. Delrin does not do this. It will chunk and break off on impact much more readily. Furthermore, Delrin is not UV stabilized and will discolor or turn grey in sunlight which will further downgrade it's structural strength. If you see a set of sliders that have been on a bike for a while and they are greying, they are most likely made of Delrin. When it is in that condition they will already have been destabilized by UV and will most likely crack when subjected to impact forces.
The Meissner Protectors from this site look great. Has anybody tried them or seen them. I think they would look great on my 08.Another quality brand is GSG Moko. Lots of choices. Good Luck!
--G
:yahoo: Ordered on Saturday got them on Monday, they look great!I very recently purchased a set of these for my '07. Replaced my old Skyway Delrin sliders. Really like the OES product. Much better design.
OESaccessories
Great folks to deal with and talk to about their products.
Delrin or some Nylon composite -vs- Aluminum...So are the options basically Delrin and/or Aluminum?
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