Gen I noise question

[BigFJR]

Ok, so I've read extensively about the ticking issue and some about CCT issues but not sure my "noise" fits and would ask for opinions please.

No ticking/noise on start up, becomes more pronounced just after initial warm up but can't be heard in any RPM range after engine is hot. I get done with a ride and pull into the garage without any abnormally discernible noise.

Ah yes, 2003 with about 33k.

Thanks, Troy

 

[TomInPA]

The early bikes had some slop in the timing chain due to a less than stellar cam chain tensioner (CCT). It is highly recommended you upgrade to the newest version (with a blue dot) at the next valve check or sooner. While the engine is still not warmed up, try compression deceleration. If it sounds like marble in the right engine case that is you timing chain slapping around. There is a LOT written on the issue here, and many articles on how to change the CCT. You're definitely at the mileage where this needs to be looked at.

Cam Chain Replacement - FJRForum

Gen 1 CCT Replacement Page 1

Gen1 Cam Chain Tensioner (CCT) Replacement Lessons Learned - FJRForum - Page 3

 

[SkooterG]

Ok, so I've read extensively about the ticking issue and some about CCT issues but not sure my "noise" fits and would ask for opinions please.

No ticking/noise on start up, becomes more pronounced just after initial warm up but can't be heard in any RPM range after engine is hot. I get done with a ride and pull into the garage without any abnormally discernible noise.

Ah yes, 2003 with about 33k.

Thanks, Troy

You are fretting too much. Don't listen for things that are not there. If it's a ticker, it's OBVIOUS. If it's a bad CCT, it's a marbles in a can sound on the right side usually just off idle.

The early bikes had some slop in the timing chain due to a less than stellar cam chain tensioner (CCT). It is highly recommended you upgrade to the newest version (with a blue dot) at the next valve check or sooner. While the engine is still not warmed up, try compression deceleration. If it sounds like marble in the right engine case that is you timing chain slapping around. There is a LOT written on the issue here, and many articles on how to change the CCT. You're definitely at the mileage where this needs to be looked at.

Cam Chain Replacement - FJRForum

Gen1 Cam Chain Tensioner (CCT) Replacement Lessons Learned - FJRForum - Page 3

Not sure I agree with all that. Not all early CCTs die early deaths. My first went 90k, my second was still good with 136k on it when that bike was totalled, and my third went 93k.

 

[xcsp]

Is your engine idle set at 1100 when warm?

 

[BigFJR]

Is your engine idle set at 1100 when warm?

Thanks guys for the specific info. Yeah, the idle is 1100 and I'm planning a TB synch in the near future since I've never done it before. Wouldn't hurt to take a look at the cam chain.

Troy

 

[TomInPA]

The early bikes had some slop in the timing chain due to a less than stellar cam chain tensioner (CCT). It is highly recommended you upgrade to the newest version (with a blue dot) at the next valve check or sooner. While the engine is still not warmed up, try compression deceleration. If it sounds like marble in the right engine case that is you timing chain slapping around. There is a LOT written on the issue here, and many articles on how to change the CCT. You're definitely at the mileage where this needs to be looked at.

Cam Chain Replacement - FJRForum

Gen1 Cam Chain Tensioner (CCT) Replacement Lessons Learned - FJRForum - Page 3

Not sure I agree with all that. Not all early CCTs die early deaths. My first went 90k, my second was still good with 136k on it when that bike was totalled, and my third went 93k.

I don't see where I over-stated the case for the CCT. Your incredible miles notwithstanding, I had the rattles in the timing case during cold deceleration, st 22K miles on the 05, and it it completely disappeared with the new CCT. Given the description we had to work with on this, that seems like on of the items that "needs to be looked at". The CCT can last a long time if the noise doesn't bother you, and if all you do is ride long distances on open roads, you'll rarely hear it.

 

[BobbyBlue]

Mine BROKE at 33K !!! Replaced under yes warranty...sounded more like ice skaters warming up 5K or so before snapping while on a roundabout off IH10 !!!...pulled in clutch and shut off and my amazing bike suffered naught...my undies werent so lucky. Repair Replace REPENT !!! sorry....

Bobby

 

[RadioHowie]

Mine BROKE at 33K !!! Replaced under yes warranty...sounded more like ice skaters warming up 5K or so before snapping while on a roundabout off IH10 !!!...pulled in clutch and shut off and my amazing bike suffered naught...my undies werent so lucky. Repair Replace REPENT !!! sorry....

Bobby

Lucky *******! Grrrrrr :angry: :angry2: <_<

3 years later, it STILL hurts.

 

[BobbyBlue]

Sorry Howie....but i agree with ya....10 Mi's,2 direct lightening strikes, 9 getoffs over the ton, 5 rolling auto wrecks including a Subaru into the Pacific Ocean, 2 deer 1 hog and more damn turkey vultures than i can remember, my 2nd de-fib and my only insurance is liability...on my bike :blink: ...but we roll on, no? And the repent is in honor of yer old steed indeed !

Blessed no chit,

Bobby

 

[BikerGeek99]

Sorry Howie....but i agree with ya....10 Mi's,2 direct lightening strikes, 9 getoffs over the ton, 5 rolling auto wrecks including a Subaru into the Pacific Ocean, 2 deer 1 hog and more damn turkey vultures than i can remember, my 2nd de-fib and my only insurance is liability...on my bike :blink: ...but we roll on, no? And the repent is in honor of yer old steed indeed !

And I thought that Bust is lucky to have made it to ... well, as old as he is.

I kinda wanna hear about the "Subaru into the Pacific Ocean" thing sometime.

You, sir, know how to party.