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Alan- You spent a lot of time thinking all that up. Not saying you are off by any means, but tolerance (or lack of I guess?) will and can negate most of those (not the seat howevah!). On the BMW, I always advise buyers to go with an FJR, at least at first as a stepping stone as I did. Let's face it, the FJR is a GREAT bike, and one that you can't beat for the price. Told da'Steamer the same exact thing, he didn't listen tho (ding-ass), and now he's crying "broke", and he even went w a used Beem'.Obviously a tongue-in-cheek response, but for the benefit of the O.P. I added some info to the above list, in bold.That's a very backwards way to choose a motorcycle!
What we don't like, OK -- we don't like:
OEM seats
OEM windshield
OEM handlebar position
engine heat - not a problem on Gen 2 & 3
it's heavy
it's top heavy
throttle control - not a problem on Gen 3
headlights and lack of conspicuousness lighting - improved on Gen 3 with the led lights below the headlights
brake lights don't strobe
front fender does not extend down far enough
no radiator guard
no OEM heated grips except on the Gen III
lack of throttle lock/cruise control except on the Gen III
insufficient storage capacity, often needs a trunk
no passenger back rest
no highway pegs
the stock exhaust
the PAIR plumbing
the front suspension
the rear suspension - better on the '14ES
the OEM tires
no OEM frame sliders installed
OEM paint colors - many of us love the Candy Red and the Cobalt Blue and the Black and...!
throttle body synch is off - seems to be improved greatly on the Gen 3
superfluous badges, stickers and reflectors
no obvious good choice for oil
no obvious good choice for tires
no obvious good choice for spark plugs
no obvious good choice for batteries
Yup, the FJR is a real POS. A number of people have been saying that the BMWs are flawless, you may want to look in that direction.
What is missed is that each of these things are disliked by only some of the riders and in the grander scale of things these are just tiny, easily fixed things.
Actually, that list took no time at all. Being a touch typist I simply closed my eyes, leaned back and words came out my fingers, then in just a few seconds there it was, da listAlan- You spent a lot of time thinking all that up. Not saying you are off by any means, but tolerance (or lack of I guess?) will and can negate most of those (not the seat howevah!)...Obviously a tongue-in-cheek response, but for the benefit of the O.P. I added some info to the above list, in bold.That's a very backwards way to choose a motorcycle!
What we don't like, OK -- we don't like:
OEM seats
OEM windshield
OEM handlebar position
engine heat - not a problem on Gen 2 & 3
it's heavy
it's top heavy
throttle control - not a problem on Gen 3
headlights and lack of conspicuousness lighting - improved on Gen 3 with the led lights below the headlights
brake lights don't strobe
front fender does not extend down far enough
no radiator guard
no OEM heated grips except on the Gen III
lack of throttle lock/cruise control except on the Gen III
insufficient storage capacity, often needs a trunk
no passenger back rest
no highway pegs
the stock exhaust
the PAIR plumbing
the front suspension
the rear suspension - better on the '14ES
the OEM tires
no OEM frame sliders installed
OEM paint colors - many of us love the Candy Red and the Cobalt Blue and the Black and...!
throttle body synch is off - seems to be improved greatly on the Gen 3
superfluous badges, stickers and reflectors
no obvious good choice for oil
no obvious good choice for tires
no obvious good choice for spark plugs
no obvious good choice for batteries
Yup, the FJR is a real POS. A number of people have been saying that the BMWs are flawless, you may want to look in that direction.
What is missed is that each of these things are disliked by only some of the riders and in the grander scale of things these are just tiny, easily fixed things.
As an optimist, I like to think that the OP is actually a design engineer working for Yamaha and wants to fix all of the little quirks for the new three cylinder FJR in 2016.
Not according to the OP, it's all about dislike, (S)he is only interested in the negative, not the good/positive....It all depends on what you're looking for in a motorcycle... All have good and bad points...
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