GP Suspension w/Penske shock: Worth. Every. Penny.

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After a bunch of checking around on which suspension upgrades folks seem to enjoy on their FJRs, I opted to work with GP Suspension in Oregon City, OR. A few calls to Dave got my questiosn all answered and in agreement I'd ride down the week of July 18th to get the bits installed. I opted for the Penske rear shock for a couple of reasons:

1 - made in the USA - I'm happy to buy local when the product is good enough for my needs. The Penske is easily going to have limits well in excess of my riding skills and style.

2 - price - the Penske costs a bit less than the Ohlins, and who doesn't want to save some cheddah?

Given it was almost 200 miles home from Dave's shop in Oregon, I figured there was a chance I might notice the difference. I usually approach mods by setting my expectations low. I *knew* the new suspension would be better, but would I *really* notice the difference?

HELL YEAH!

Those long, fast sweepers with mid-corner bumps that would normally have the stock suspension re-settling and moving about went entirely unnoticed with the upgraded suspension in place. From the very first turn, I could feel the difference. Heck, it's obvious the stock suspension was at it's limits by the first time I hit a low speed bump, or broken pavement. The new suspenson just soaks it up and keeps the bike on track.

Pulling out of the shop I noted a higher seat height. I can adjust this, but it felt a bit like when I first bought the bike 2 years ago. The major difference being noted as I pulled onto the road. The bike seems to lean in faster and much more crisply. Its much easier to simply place the bike at the right lean angle for any low speed manuevering you need to do. Hitting bumps is the most noticable low speed difference. The suspension literally soaks up the bumps, taking the edge of even the flintiest broken asphalt.

I also noticed improved overall comfort when simply running up the highway. The run up the I5 was a very different experience from my moring ride down. The bike was notiably more comfortable over all. The bike "talks" a LOT mor enow, clearly communicating what the tires are encountering with every revolution. I feel like now, instead of waiting to sense the mass fo the bike moving, I can feel the actual traction at the contact patch, much more clearly sensing when the limits are within reach.

Every turn I took around my neighborhood when I got off the highway showed just how improved the balance and handling are now - Dave is clearly a master, as the settings he selected got us in the ballpark, right around the pitcher's mound, in fact, out of the gate. I'd say they're dead on for everyday, solo riding use right now! Can't wait to play a bit to see if there are a few tidbits of comfort and handling to find, but so far, I'm pleased with where the setting stand right now.

The one picture from the install - it's like riding on air!!!

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For those who can ride in, you'll notice how clean Dave keeps his shop, and how he's meticulous. His stories from his deep racing past are entertaining, and he's willing to explain everything he's doing as you watch on. The folk assemblies were ready and waiting for me when I arrived, with the Penske shock being delivered later in the day. The assembly of all the bits was straight forward. I arrived around 10:30 am and was on the road bound for home around 3PM. Great way to spend a day of vacation time. :)

The prices will vary depending on how much work you get done, which items you opt to replace and which shock you select. I'm not posting my price, but I will say Dave offered me a nice discount, and he does like the FJRForum community. ;) While I was there, one gent called and Dave simply walked him through everyhting we were doing on my actual bike. Funny enough, the guy on the phone asked exactly the same questions I did when I called Dave a couple months ago...LOL

As I stated in the title of this thread, though... Worth. Every. Penny.

If you're on the fence about a new suspension, jump! The grass IS greener on this side!

Here's Dave's contact info at GP Suspension:

414 Beavercreek Road #708 Oregon City, Oregon 97045

Phone: 503.723.7793

Fax: 503.723.7996

www.gpsuspension.com

 
Well done! :clapping: :clapping:

Did you get your forks done too? The Gen II forks supposidly wear out around 24,000 miles.

I got both ends when I did mine. Sent the forks out to them for upgrade, they sent them back plus the Penske. I didn't realize the fabulous immediate improvement like most folks do. I had them set the system up for two up plus full gear. A little stiff at first and the forks pogo'ed pretty badly. After some focused adjusting rides and some tips from the suspension adjusting threads, I finally got everything set up correctly. Fantastic ride now, no pogo and no wallowing in the corners! We got all the way to no "chicken strips" two up in full tour regalia on The Dragon. Way cool!

My point is, if you get this stuff (please do!) be sure to specify both the type of riding and the possible load variation (one up, two up, full bagger) so they can set you up right.

And if it doesn't thrill you coming down the driveway, be patient, read the suspension threads, and do some tuning. You won't be disappointed.

 
Well done! :clapping: :clapping:

Did you get your forks done too? The Gen II forks supposidly wear out around 24,000 miles.

I got both ends when I did mine. Sent the forks out to them for upgrade, they sent them back plus the Penske. I didn't realize the fabulous immediate improvement like most folks do. I had them set the system up for two up plus full gear. A little stiff at first and the forks pogo'ed pretty badly. After some focused adjusting rides and some tips from the suspension adjusting threads, I finally got everything set up correctly. Fantastic ride now, no pogo and no wallowing in the corners! We got all the way to no "chicken strips" two up in full tour regalia on The Dragon. Way cool!

My point is, if you get this stuff (please do!) be sure to specify both the type of riding and the possible load variation (one up, two up, full bagger) so they can set you up right.

And if it doesn't thrill you coming down the driveway, be patient, read the suspension threads, and do some tuning. You won't be disappointed.
Yes, sir - got both ends done at the same time. Dave tells me the service life for the Penske rear shock is around 15,000 miles. Given I've only put 7,000 miles on the bike in two years, it'll be a while before I need that work done.

I'm actually going to go trolling the suspension set up threads shortly. :D

 
Well done! :clapping: :clapping:

Did you get your forks done too? The Gen II forks supposidly wear out around 24,000 miles.
Just wanted to note that my bushings were still good at 42,000 miles on my Gen II. Jeff Ashe did the modifications to my forks and though they had another 12,000 on them.

He called me anal because I change the fluid every time I change the tires! Oh well I plan on taking just as good of care of my new set up as I did the old or better. I might just do a complete fork disassembly minus bushing removable from now on as the new set up is sweat!

 
Yep, GP Suspension front and rear is the best farkle you can put on the bike. Those boys know their stuff, and the proof is in the ride. :thumbsup:

 
Fully agree.

I send my suspenders annually for a freshen up -

..cheap insurance to keep my hide on my body and not the pavement.

Wonderful service and a great product.

Got nothing but good things to say about GPS..

DCARVER APPROVED!

 
will it keep my bke from feeling like a bucking bronc whilst riding over choppy roads? I dunno, but this season my bike doesn't handle that well. Or, maybe fork rebuild? :(

 
A group from pnwriders.com get together every thursday nite for burgers and rides. A few weeks ago, I went out with a group of Suzuki's, one was a Hayabussa. When we stopped, he was looking over my FJR and noticed the GP suspension sticker on the forks and said "They did the suspension on my track bike" he was really quite suprised.

 
will it keep my bke from feeling like a bucking bronc whilst riding over choppy roads? I dunno, but this season my bike doesn't handle that well. Or, maybe fork rebuild? :(
How Many miles do you have on it?

 
will it keep my bke from feeling like a bucking bronc whilst riding over choppy roads? I dunno, but this season my bike doesn't handle that well. Or, maybe fork rebuild? :(
I went from riding a porpoise to riding a shark.

It'll cure the wobbles the factory suspension allows. Great adjustability will let you tune the suspension to your taste and needs. The ride quality improved noticably for me as well. It's very easy to see where Yamaha saved money on this bike - the suspension is one are for certain. Can't fault them, though, as they need to target some form of "average" rider. I'm decidely not average. ;)

Fully agree.
I send my suspenders annually for a freshen up -

..cheap insurance to keep my hide on my body and not the pavement.

Wonderful service and a great product.

Got nothing but good things to say about GPS..

DCARVER APPROVED!
Dave asked me if I knew Carver from the forum...LOL I sheepishly admitted I knew who you were... still, everything turned out fine and I managed a discount on the final price... ;)

Just kidding - Dave had nothing but good to say about everyone from the forum here. :) He did mention one gent from Nova Scotia who complained about his suspension after it was installed (not by Dave). It assure you it wasn't THIS Nova Scotian complaining. ;)

As I was leaving, I thought I noted a shelf marked "dcarver" - makes sense now... :D

Dave also told me he does around 90 FJR set ups a year, so he stocks all the usual bits needed. I replaced the bushings, though they had plenty of life left in them. Figured we were going this far, the extra $24 was a good idea to throw at the project. ;)

I may *HAVE* to go for a ride today...mmm... Ben Howard Road? Mercer Island curves? Yes, and YES!!!

 
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will it keep my bke from feeling like a bucking bronc whilst riding over choppy roads? I dunno, but this season my bike doesn't handle that well. Or, maybe fork rebuild? :(
How Many miles do you have on it?

53,000kms +. It's been good til this season, smooth and steady. Went out to Long Beach a bit ago, and along Kennedy Lake the road is bumpy and patched; a rough and windy bit of road. Felt like I was riding a rodeo bronc. I haven't adjusted anything front or back, tires are good and pressures always checked. Nothing new or changed on the bike or what I haul on it. The front doesn't seem to dive any differently when front braking.

Maybe if/when I get down there in August for a scoot one of you's could take her for a ride and tell me what you think?

funny, rode fine til going up that goat trail to Auburn's for tech day (kidding...haha)

 
Congrats on the set-up!

I rode all the way up there from Los Angeles and had both ends done(GP fork parts and Penske shock). Same story, great service and a bike that rides on rails! I'm no motorcycle specialist, but even I noticed the difference immediately!

 
I hear that the Gen 1 rear shock is weak and if I have it figure correctly that is about 33,000 miles so definitely due for a replacement. The big issue is the sticker price of doing a swap but was well worth it for me. The forks Yamaha did a fairly decent job on but the GP internals and getting sprung for you is also a big improvement. Once tuned you will be comfortable in all situations.

I'm sure happy with what HaulinAshe did with my stuff. If you plan on keeping it it's worth doing.

 
53,000kms +. It's been good til this season, smooth and steady. Went out to Long Beach a bit ago, and along Kennedy Lake the road is bumpy and patched; a rough and windy bit of road. Felt like I was riding a rodeo bronc. I haven't adjusted anything front or back, tires are good and pressures always checked. Nothing new or changed on the bike or what I haul on it. The front doesn't seem to dive any differently when front braking.
Barb -- the rear shock is toast and the front end is due -- not that either, when new, was ever what I'd call good. At 5,000 miles on my '05, I put a stiffer Wilbers spring (which was really only a longer more preloaded spring) in the front, and a Wilbers rear shock on it. That helped a lot, but was not even in the same ballpark as after my ride in to GP Suspension last July 26, when I had the front and back rebuilt.

My Wilbers is rebuildable, so it was rebuilt and resprung with the correct (heavier) spring (a Penske like I have on the Blackbird is better). The front forks were both resprung to the correct stiffness and optimum preload, rebuilt with the GPS valving and the spacer fine tuned for optimum preload. I've written about it more extensively elsewhere, but the result was a plusher ride yet one that handled far better, tracking where I send it and giving me great and predictable feedback.

I know that it's hard to believe that you can have both handling and a better ride, but that's what I got. If you do the ride in, you get a step by step tour/description of what they're doing and why -- then you understand how they can give you the best of both worlds. BTW, with a ride in, you also get the sag set perfectly for you as the last step before you ride away.

Just bite the bullet for a front rebuild and a Penske in the rear, get a forum discount and find out how much better this bike can be. It really is as good as everyone reports.

 
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certainly makes sense with what I have been experiencing....

I was heading Oregon way for 10 days in August just as a getaway. Guess I know one stop I'll be making.

Will I have to sell one child, or both? Kinda hoping to keep the golden retriever (he likely has more worth on the open market LOL)

Men..........yer just too danged expensive!

 
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