Guess who got a C-14

[Constant Mesh]

My guess --

The throttle issue will be corrected on the '08 FJR. They'll likely go to the throttle-by-wire system similar to what's on the R1, R6, and FZ1.

They could also easily add electronic cruise control utilizing the servo-controlled throttle.

The FJR's battery weighs approximately 11 pounds. One gallon of gasoline weighs approximately 6 pounds. No doubt moving these items lower down on the bike would be somewhat beneficial.

 

[Orient_Express]

My guess --
The throttle issue will be corrected on the '08 FJR. They'll likely go to the throttle-by-wire system similar to what's on the R1, R6, and FZ1.

They could also easily add electronic cruise control utilizing the servo-controlled throttle.

There ya' go - Gunny!!

Maybe on-board GPS, although I wouldn't want the '08 to get to "Wing-ish"

 

[Scab]

anyone who has 3 nice bikes like that should be expecting to get some SH!T.

uh oh h34r:

Uh, yeah. That's gonna keep you up a night, ain't it? Who is next?...

 

[v65]

My guess --
The throttle issue will be corrected on the '08 FJR. They'll likely go to the throttle-by-wire system similar to what's on the R1, R6, and FZ1.

Ooohh I think I'm getting wood! :clapping: Is that bad?

 

[Fencer]

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Better than the FJR, or just different?

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Well, I don't wanna start a war with the FJR guys, but the C14 handles WAY better in all aspects. Better sprung suspension, smoother power delivery, more predictable and confidence inspiring road manners all the way around. Less drive line lash is also present, and the clutch and throttle are worlds apart. The FJR feels high strung and twitchy where the C14 feels planted, and smooth. I don't have the high center of gravity (top heavy) feel on the C14 that I do on the FJR. I think moving some of the gas and battery down low in the bike really makes a big difference. In My Opinion, the FJR has too much weight up high. But my Givi top box probably doesn't help any in that area either.

The 06/07 FJR's had the throttle pulley changed to a progressive pitch pulley on the throttle bodies, that results in larger changes in throttle plate movements at low RPMs. This results in making it almost impossible to be smooth on it, and it is really jerky and snatchy with the throttle. The C14 is a joy to ride in comparison. The throttle applies the power in a very smooth and consistent manner and it makes a HUGE difference.

He will sell it (the c-14) Nothing to fix!! :lol:

Get all the smilies Fred?

 

[madmike2]

One should admit that Yamaha screwed up with the progressive throttle pulleys. That has to exascerbate the surging issues that are likely from the ECU or a bad batch of sensors.

I hope he likes the bike and reports his comparo. He may be blunt and lack the ability to explain things to everyone's liking, but he has always been honest with his opinions. So Fred....we're waiting for a better report once you have the C-14 broken in.

 

[fjrchooser]

Well, not actually waiting but rather continuing on until one comes along.

 

[Medium Al]

My guess --
The throttle issue will be corrected on the '08 FJR. They'll likely go to the throttle-by-wire system similar to what's on the R1, R6, and FZ1.

They could also easily add electronic cruise control utilizing the servo-controlled throttle.

Ummm...all those bikes still have major FI issues. So I can't see how making the FJR more like them will result in an improvement.

 

[bmwhd]

My guess --
The throttle issue will be corrected on the '08 FJR. They'll likely go to the throttle-by-wire system similar to what's on the R1, R6, and FZ1.

They could also easily add electronic cruise control utilizing the servo-controlled throttle.

Ummm...all those bikes still have major FI issues. So I can't see how making the FJR more like them will result in an improvement.

Harley's new throttle-by-wire for '08 is getting rave reviews (as is there dead-simple new-for-'08 ABS). Maybe Yamaha could hire their engineers

 

[Bounce]

He will sell it (the c-14) Nothing to fix!!

You don't know Fred. He'll have already removed and will reinstall the motor since it wasn't done right at the factory and, within 3 months have all the fasteners on the bike worn out from removing and replacing them.

Harley's new... dead-simple new-for-'08 ABS...

ya think it's like their police models that first got ABS and et up a third of a saddlebag with the naughty bits?

 

[Windjammer]

Maybe Yamaha could hire their engineers

I really have nothing against HD, but OTOH, I don't want my FJR to sound like a potato either....

 

[DaveT]

Man, you guys are tough (and I'm being nice). Fred has his opinions on things, but he usually pretty close to being right on whether you like it or not. Yep, he likes to tinker with them, figure them out, and see how he can make improvements/changes to make a particular bike work better for him. Every bike is designed to try to work for a whole lot of different folks -- make the changes to make it better for the individual makes a lot of sense. I for one am glad that he shares his information with us, vs giving him a ration of bull. Some folks would have said that Honda obviously knew what they were doing with the GL1800 Gold wing (I have one of those also), but Fred was one of the key players involved in a number of the major issues such as the overheating and the ones with the broken frames -- Honda did not have it right. Hey, do you think that Yamaha had it right with the FJR from day 1 -- if so, why did they make the changes with the 06? And I think that we are seeing some of the new issues with changes that get worked along the way.

As for the Connie, I look forward to hearing what Fred has to say. I don't agree with him, but I sure do like to hear what he has to say. Does not mean that I will go down the same path that he takes and his changes might be good for him and not for me. But, I sure do like to hear about his ideas. Makes it a lot of fun1!!!

 

[dbvolfan]

wow, it's harsh out there on the FJR forum today....funny, but harsh.......subscribe.

 

[05fjrman]

wow, it's harsh out there on the FJR forum today....funny, but harsh.......subscribe.

I've seen worse. And it was Friday.

 

[twowheelnut]

I finally got to sit on the C14 today (while picking up my sensibly priced rotor bolts ) at my dealer...

One word: Fat.

Yoikes! The tank is fat, the seat is fat, the OA width is fat (lane sharing will be spooky, at best, with the bags on)... My six foot frame was pretty scrunched up on the stocker, not that that can't eventually be fixed, and dang, that thing has a seating position more akin to a sport bike than touring. I don't think I could do many continuous hours as it is. Seat seemed pretty hard, too. And, sorry, but that Aztec-like cladding? Holy friggin' U.G.L.Y.!

Nope. I'll be staying with the FJR for the foreseeable future. Maybe I'll consider C14 v2.0 in another 20 years.

 

[keithaba]

My guess --
The throttle issue will be corrected on the '08 FJR. They'll likely go to the throttle-by-wire system similar to what's on the R1, R6, and FZ1.

They could also easily add electronic cruise control utilizing the servo-controlled throttle.

The FJR's battery weighs approximately 11 pounds. One gallon of gasoline weighs approximately 6 pounds. No doubt moving these items lower down on the bike would be somewhat beneficial.

I hope so, but I doubt we will see any changes until 09.

 

[bmwhd]

He will sell it (the c-14) Nothing to fix!!

You don't know Fred. He'll have already removed and reinstalled the motor since it wasn't done right at the factory and, within 3 months have all the fasteners on the bike worn out from removing and replacing them.

Harley's new... dead-simple new-for-'08 ABS...

ya think it's like their police models that first got ABS and et up a third of a saddlebag with the naughty bits?

Actually, as much as it pains me to admit it (and I owned 3 HDs in my past), the new HD ABS is really sweet in it's execution. It's nothing like the first gen ABS they offered on the LEO bikes. Dead simple is an understatement. Brembo components and a little bitty brain behind one side cover on the FLH models. Not linked either. And they've apparently nailed the throttle-by-wire design too. Go figure.

 

[odot]

I'd start the dogpile on ya, bmdub, but, I have a hog, too. Nonetheless, no abs and no flybywire throttle. Just a ratbike with many miles on her.......

 

[painman]

The new Connie looks better every time I see it. Right that it is big, but good on Fred for the purchase. Rather than multiple sport/touring, touring bikes in the stable, I would have to divey up on the new ZX-14 but that's just a dream away....PM. <><

 

[kiwi]

The new Connie looks better every time I see it. Right that it is big, but good on Fred for the purchase. Rather than multiple sport/touring, touring bikes in the stable, I would have to divey up on the new ZX-14 but that's just a dream away....PM. <><

She has got alot going for her but the fjr is better looking, lets face it unless you are riding it, looks do count above performance....untill the dream becomes a reality at least :lol: