Gun safes

[FJRay]

Went window shopping this afternoon and the price spread is amazing. I would need Beemerdons to adopt me to afford what I want but I don't want to sleep with Skooter boy.

In my part of the world the costco is the most bang for the buck considering the will deliver it and place it where it needs to go. It would be nice if funds weren't the controling factor but such is life. Will keep looking.

 

[TheZsdad]

Went window shopping this afternoon and the price spread is amazing. I would need Beemerdons to adopt me to afford what I want but I don't want to sleep with Skooter boy.

In my part of the world the costco is the most bang for the buck considering the will deliver it and place it where it needs to go. It would be nice if funds weren't the controling factor but such is life. Will keep looking.

Hey Ray, Not sure it would be cheaper but some of the safe company's will sell you a door. You sacrifice a closet reenforced it with steel and you got a vault. The fire proofing is not much more than layers upon layers of drywall from what I've heard.

 

[dcarver]

I didn't realize they were that much money. Ray, you're going to need a bike or two to fix up to gather the cash?

C'mon Ray, I'm trying to say something here..

 

[FJRay]

I didn't realize they were that much money. Ray, you're going to need a bike or two to fix up to gather the cash?

C'mon Ray, I'm trying to say something here..

I understand what you'er saying so make your point. You have my number.

 

[escapefjrtist]

The fire proofing is not much more than layers upon layers of drywall from what I've heard.

This might be true with cheaper safes, but higher quality versions use specific linings to achieve the desired fire protection. Sturdy Safe has some good information on their site with pics of a safe after a burn down.

As always, you get what you pay for. YMMV.

--G

 

[ShinyPartsUp]

Costco periodically has safes on sale over here for $500 that are a good value if you can't afford top hog Ray. My wife gave me some XMAS money to buy a safe but my computer crashed 2 days later, so no safe. A couple buddies have them and they keep honest people honest, and keep limited fires from destroying things. Buy the best you can afford.

 

[Old Michael]

...Buy the best you can afford.

Why has it always gotta be about your *** life?

...Cheesebag.

 

[ShinyPartsUp]

...Buy the best you can afford.

Why has it always gotta be about your *** life?

...Cheesebag.

Because since Dolly left town I don't have one.

...**** puppy

 

[TheZsdad]

The fire proofing is not much more than layers upon layers of drywall from what I've heard.

This might be true with cheaper safes, but higher quality versions use specific linings to achieve the desired fire protection. Sturdy Safe has some good information on their site with pics of a safe after a burn down.

As always, you get what you pay for. YMMV.

--G

Thanks for for the link. If in the market some good info to digest.

 

[exskibum]

The fire proofing is not much more than layers upon layers of drywall from what I've heard.

This might be true with cheaper safes, but higher quality versions use specific linings to achieve the desired fire protection. Sturdy Safe has some good information on their site with pics of a safe after a burn down.

As always, you get what you pay for. YMMV.

--G

Thanks for for the link. If in the market some good info to digest.

+1

 

[RPrice]

Yukon Elite Gold, made by Browning, about 5 feet high and about 4 feet wide, half shelves and half long gun storage, 12 hr fire rated, really nice paint. What ever you do spend the extra pennies for the electronic lock not the tumbler. I keep everything in there and am in and out several times a day, the electronic lock is the only way to go!

I have the Yukon Gold, with the combination. I don't find the combination lock to be an issue, I did have a friend who had the electric lock, which failed, necessitating a lock smith visit.

 

[HotRodZilla]

I have an American Security safe that I bought from my best friend. He replaced this one with a bigger model, because he was running out of room. It is pretty heavy, but is bolted to the floor. I am not a big fan of the electronic locks. I have a tumbler lock, and can get in it pretty quickly if I have to. However, my self defense guns are not locked inside the safe...

A few guys are correct about the number of guns you can store inside. My safe has more slots than I have guns, but I am at about the limit due to scopes and optics causing a rifle to take up more space. Depending on where you live should determine if you really need a specd "fire-proof" safe. I see lots of firefighters, and most of them say that in metro-areas, fire departments are so close these days that a house fire getting hot enough to get past a standard quality safe is pretty rare. So, if you live in the middle of nowhere, get fire proof...if you live in the city, get one that will stand up to some heat, but put the money you'd spend on the fireproofing and instead spend it on safe size, quality, etc...

BOLT YOUR SAFE TO THE FLOOR. Otherwise, it's just a nice box to keep all your stuff in while the ******** transport it from your house to thiers. A guy I work with came home from a 2 week vacation and found that his very expensive safe had been ground open with an angle grinder...The bad guys had all day.

Last thing...Unless you're in a big hurry, wait until you have a local gun-show in town. The guys who sell safes will show up. On the last day, near the last hours of the show, you will get a very good deal because they don't want to have to pack up their inventory and take it back. My brother-in-law got a really nice safe this way. It's not the heaviest I have seen, but it took three of us to load it into the truck...

Good luck.

 

[Bike Effects]

I have a Liberty safe and like it. I got the mechanical lock and later changed to Electronic. I found that the mechanical was a PITA and that I would sometimes leave the safe unlocked to avoid the hassle. I'm in the safe every day.

Just remember when shopping, when they refer to how many long guns they hold, they are many times assume that there is no scope. Mine are crowded so much that I have to remove the bolts on my rifles. Also, mine is too small to fit an assembled and scoped AR-15. I have to separate the upper and lower to get it in.

 

[fljab]

Yukon Elite Gold, made by Browning, about 5 feet high and about 4 feet wide, half shelves and half long gun storage, 12 hr fire rated, really nice paint. What ever you do spend the extra pennies for the electronic lock not the tumbler. I keep everything in there and am in and out several times a day, the electronic lock is the only way to go!

So, what's the advantage of electronic locks? I always prefer mechanical locks that don't require batteries.

+1

I've had mine for many yrs and it originally had the electronic lock that went bad within the warranty period. Called the company and they sent a contractor safe guy out to my house and he changed it over to a wheel/mechanical lock no charge to me! I'll never buy another electronic because of this experience altho I know many are out there with no problems.

Spinning the wheel is a little more time consuming but not that big a deal after you get used to it. Of course, I guess if the revolution starts before I hear about it I'm gonna play hell getting into the firefight quickly on my doorstep if what I have already set out isn't doing the job...

 

[puppychow]

Any opinion on these kind of safes for your handgun on the bedside nightstand?

Linky

 

[Bounce]

Any opinion on these kind of safes for your handgun on the bedside nightstand?

Linky

easily stolen so that thieves can easily smash them on their own time when off site.

 

[puppychow]

Probably true..but I can't just leave a handgun unlocked in the nightstand drawer either while I am at home. If I was going to be away from home, the gun would not be in that safe in the nightstand.

 

[Tree Doc]

I have a different take on the night stand safe. I think they're great. I have one that was made by Mossberg that unfortunately is not available any longer. I had been looking at it at my local gun dealer friend's shop for a long time and hadn't pulled the trigger on the purchase because it was around $300 bucks.

The wife and I have no children so it was not unusual for me to keep my favorite carry piece, a S&W 4513 Tactical, in my nightstand drawer. One day I was out working in the garage while my wife was in visiting with a very close friend that had their first daughter, a 2 y/o, that apparently was meandering through the house as the ladies were in the kitchen cackling as hens do. I came in the house to get something and found Madison walking out of the bedroom with my 4513 in it's holster, loaded and ready to rock as it should be. Talk about a real eye opener!! It was very unlikely that she could have discharged the weapon as it was configured in decock, double action mode but still, I **** bricks and wouldn't want to bet anyone's life on that thought.

An hour later, I came home with the Mossberg Safe. The next day I hit a couple garage sales and I found a real nice Danish made teak nightstand with a stain on the top for like $5. I bolted the mount plate to the nightstand and the safe mounts to that so it's removable. Ironically, the next weekend, friend was back with Madison and I heard my safe beeping intermittently. That is the warning that emits when 17 numbers have been pushed on the number pad and none are the correct sequence to open it. Madison had been in the room searching for something to play with again.

I'd say money well spent!

If someone rips it off, BFD. There's 20+ more pistols in the big safe. I like having the access to 2 handguns at the push of a numbered combo. The lid is servo assisted so it pops open when actuated and a red LED turns on inside to illuminate the interior without affecting your night vision. It's the best unit I have ever seen on the market and was available for a number of years but for some reason, it's not any longer.

 

[Denver_FJR]

Have owned a Liberty safe with mechanical combo for probably 15 years. I've considered upgrading to electronic but just haven't done so yet.

Regarding electronic vs mechanical decision, had a buddy with same S&G mechanical combo that went bad on him and required locksmith visit, so don't let anyone tell you the mechanical models won't ever let you down. He used to spin the crap out of it to reset, that may of had something to do with it, heh.

 

[Bounce]

Probably true..but I can't just leave a handgun unlocked in the nightstand drawer either while I am at home. If I was going to be away from home, the gun would not be in that safe in the nightstand.

get one that can be opened by touch in the dark. bolt it to something else (the under side of the bed maybe). it's really only useful if you need access when away from your safe and have kids (can't just leave it on the night stand). find one made of something more than thin sheet steel (if you can).

as for theft of the safe with a pistol in it... i'm a little less flip regardless of how many remain in stock in the main safe. it's still money out of my pocket and a firearm in the hands of a bad guy.

Here may be a useful resource

https://www.stronggunsafes.com/biometric-gun-safe.html