Hard wire hazard lights

[kulwen]

Since we seem to be having ignition failure issues I am considering hard wiring a set of lights to act as hazard lights. I ride a lot at night and think a set of hard wired hazards would be a good mod. I am concerned about being on the side of the road while little to no emergeny parking and not being seen.

Thoughts?

 

[05fjrBluedevil]

Since we seem to be having ignition failure issues I am considering hard wiring a set of lights to act as hazard lights. I ride a lot at night and think a set of hard wired hazards would be a good mod. I am concerned about being on the side of the road while little to no emergeny parking and not being seen.
Thoughts?

well would be a good idea,,, as long as you make sure no one uses those as path way lights to you thinking it is the road.....

 

[C&C]

Sounds like a good idea. I never thought about the hazard lights not working unless the ignition was on. I think they should have been hard wired from the factory.

 

[ionbeam]

Hmm, I need a Gen II volunteer for a difficult mission... The Gen II owners manual says to operate the hazard lights, turn the key to the 'on' position and turn on the hazard switch. When I look at the electrical diagram for the Gen II (and Gen II only) it appears that when the key is turned to the 'Park' position (steering locked) that B+ gets connected to the hazard circuit. Any brave soles with a Gen II want to try locking the steering and then turning on the hazard button? If the schematic is accurate the hazard lights should operate with the key in the park position even though the owners manual does not say this.

The hazard circuit uses the signaling fuse and shares the turn signal relay as well as the license plate light and brake lights. If you want to cheat the power circuit to the hazard lights you will have to jump battery voltage to the turn signal relay. This will 'back power' anything connected to this circuit. While it doesn't look like it will create a problem, just be aware that the rear lighting of the bike will come on with turn signal circuit. If you have tapped any of the rear lighting wires for farkles, they will be powered up too.

 

[IanS]

Yes it works, on both Gen 1 and Gen 11, I even had to show my dealer this! You don't even need to put it in the P position to switch on tail and side lights just lock the steering.

 

[ionbeam]

Yes it works, on both Gen 1 and Gen 11, I even had to show my dealer this!

Cool IanS! Thanks, at lunch I will try my Gen I, the schematic for the Gen I does not show this connection in the main switch the way the Gen II does.

Golly, brothers, gentlemen and fellow riders, we may have found us an "Undocumented Feature" Or, conversely, an omission in the owners manual :glare:

 

[bramfrank]

Yes it works, on both Gen 1 and Gen 11, I even had to show my dealer this! You don't even need to put it in the P position to switch on tail and side lights just lock the steering.

Have someone at the office who rides an FJR that you don't like? If they lock their steering you can probably drain their battery over 8 hours by switching on their flashers!!!

"Hello, roadside assistance? I need a boost. Two hours you say? Darn"

 

[ionbeam]

Well, the suspense got to be too much for me, I just checked my Gen I. Per the schematic, my '04 hazards only work when the key is in the 'on' position. :sadsmiley: Waiting on a Gen II report...

you can probably drain their battery over 8 hours by switching on their flashers!!!

Bad Bram, bad. But funny, and point taken. If the Gen IIs do work with the steering locked they need to be aware of this potential.

 

[C&C]

Gen I user here ('04), locked the steering head, turn on the hazards; no joy. Could this be another difference between U.S. models and European?

 

[mcatrophy]

Gen II, UK.

Ignition in "Steering lock", hazards can't be switched on.

Move to "Park", parking lights are on, hazards can be switched on.

I've found it quite easy to accidently go to "Park" when wanting just "Steering lock", I now always check my parking lights when leaving the bike (don't ever want a flat battery with the electric clutch/gear-change :blink: ).

 

[pickax]

Alan

Just checked my "06 and nothing in park (locked). Had to be in on position.

 

[ionbeam]

Thanks for the info pickax. Evidently the main switch in the schematic is correct for a rest-of-the-World bike, it shows the immobilizer too.

Well dang, must be another feature we don't need here in the states. I'm beginning to feel feature deprived, maybe if I go add some more farkles to compensate I'll feel better :lol:

 

[Grumpy]

Good way to run your battery down below where the bike'll start! It's not for me.

jim

 

[Brodie]

Mine is a California bike. There is no park position, and the 4 ways do not turn on with the forks locked.

What someone needs to do is engineer another farkle to keep the 4 ways flashing after you remove the key. Once you turn the switch off it will not activate the 4 ways untill you turn the key on again.

I would pay $50 for such a device... Any body up to the challenge?

 

[kulwen]

I am talking with a guy at work about the following idea:

A battery (9-volt or smaller) powering LEDs placed in the tail light section. In the event of ignition failure the battery power LED hazards lights immediately start. Once we work out the details such as detecting ignition failure I will keep everyone posted.

 

[Inlaw1]

Ok, but what if you need them for something other than ignition failure?

I don't get why Yamaha would design hazards that didn't work unless the key was on. Quite often when using hazards your leaving a vehicle for some amount of time. It would be nice to not have to leave the key with it.