Has anyone done a Dyno on their FJR?

[Bounce]

ZZ, the dyno is measuring the power at the rear wheel.  The factory's number is measured at the crank.  A 10 - 20% power loss is typical between those two measuring points due to all the whirly bits, friction, weight, etc.  At the end of the day, it's the power at the wheel that is important...

That's what I said. :haha:

bikes, cars, ski-doos, whatever. it doesn't matter. mfgrs report hp at the crank. that's never going to match rear wheel hp.

 

[Skippy]

# Compact, lightweight 1298cc, DOHC, 16-valve, liquid-cooled in-line four-cylinder engine delivers massive power and torque (145 hp @ 8000 RPM and 99 ft.-lbs. of torque @ 7000 RPM, respectively) for an unequaled spread of muscle over a wide RPM range.
Heres my concern guys, off the dealer floor, you go to the Dynojet, and you get a hp range of 119 to 125 average.  145 hp is on the website, and we are all taking for granted that the EPA, or the country that it is being sold, is the reason that the bikes here in US, are not getting the same HP?  What gives guys? Not one of you reading this have even gotten close to the 145 HP, even with the PC111, K&N, Exaust mods.  Don't you think we should start out with 145 and with our mods add on top of this?  Don't take me wrong, I love my bike, but as a consumer I think the little injustice is just plain wrong!

:help:

Somebody, anybody, please make him stop, before I go crazy :dribble:

Skippy

 

[FJRMGM]

taking into account there is anywhere from 10-15 percent HP loss in the drivetrain from friction and changing direction of the power we get to this equation:

145hp x 88% (12 percent loss) = 127.6 HP at the wheels.

Yup, sounds about right to me...

Also, that 145 HP figure can vary 5 HP plus (Blue) or minus (all other colors) due to manufacturing and assembly variations.

 

[Divenride]

I agree...

With the PC3, remapped mine was 122.7hp and 86.1 tq....

Divenride

 

[Bounce]

But how many different ways do we have to explain it before it becomes apparent to him that the two numbers will never be the same; regardless of the vehicle?

 

[Just Plain Dave]

# Compact, lightweight 1298cc, DOHC, 16-valve, liquid-cooled in-line four-cylinder engine delivers massive power and torque (145 hp @ 8000 RPM and 99 ft.-lbs. of torque @ 7000 RPM, respectively) for an unequaled spread of muscle over a wide RPM range.
Heres my concern guys, off the dealer floor, you go to the Dynojet, and you get a hp range of 119 to 125 average.  145 hp is on the website, and we are all taking for granted that the EPA, or the country that it is being sold, is the reason that the bikes here in US, are not getting the same HP?  What gives guys? Not one of you reading this have even gotten close to the 145 HP, even with the PC111, K&N, Exaust mods.  Don't you think we should start out with 145 and with our mods add on top of this?  Don't take me wrong, I love my bike, but as a consumer I think the little injustice is just plain wrong!

If you are really all that concerned, send me a stamped, self addressed envelope, and a $50 money order. I will send you the 15 hp developed between 6200 rpm and 7836 rpm from my 05, cause I just don't need it. Just open the envelope and pour it into your gas tank. (no guarantees if your tank ain't galaxy blue)

 

[RonC]

Just to be technical for a moment:

The Dark blue FJR of 2005 absorbs more of the sun's photons, transferring heat to the combustion chambers and inducing greater expansion of the combustion gases resulting in more HP and torque.

Don't want to start a color war. Just stating the physics.

Ron

 

[teerex51]

Just stating the physics

Absodamnlutely. That's why Mama Yama discontinued the production of the Euro 2001 black Feejer

because it was 13.3333 % faster than the others. Even the French detuned engines (some of which were mistakenly assembled into US bikes) gained up to 10 HP just because of the color.

The "Galaxy Blue" color was eventually introduced in 2003 (in Europe) to appease the angry consumers who did not want the slower silver bike.

This is all proven and documented and I'm going to the New York Times with the full story...

Stef

 

[yanktar]

Ivan Rovinsky of Ivan's Performance Products re-mapped my PCIII last summer (August) and dyno'ed it at 128+ rwhp. Don't have torque #s.

 

[VMax_03]

Hey Stef,

You'd do better going to the Washington Post ... .

Chow,

JW

 

[Thumperbike]

yes, blue..

 

[teerex51]

You'd do better going to the Washington Post ...

Mmmh...this guy no longer works there

Stef

 

[madmike2]

Just stating the physics

Absodamnlutely. That's why Mama Yama discontinued the production of the Euro 2001 black Feejer .........................

..........because it was 13.3333 % faster than the others. Even the French detuned engines (some of which were mistakenly assembled into US bikes) gained up to 10 HP just because of the color.

The "Galaxy Blue" color was eventually introduced in 2003 (in Europe) to appease the angry consumers who did not want the slower silver bike.

This is all proven and documented and I'm going to the New York Times with the full story...

Stef

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Stef, you're #1!

 

[Jerome]

zzk, Guys with small weenies are typically obsessed with things like HP ratings and wasteful oversized bling vehicles. Hope you're not one.

 

[Jerome]

OK, Sorry about the tasteless remark. Just that I got cut-off by a Hummer on the way to the airport this morning where I am now waiting for a delayed flight, and its a beautiful warm day here in Boston and my bike is put away, and.... I guess I have my own issues. ZZK, no offense intended. If I could (knew how) delete last post I would.

 

[Bounce]

OK, Sorry about the tasteless remark.  Just that I got cut-off by a Hummer on the way to the airport this morning where I am now waiting for a delayed flight, and its a beautiful warm day here in Boston and my bike is put away, and....  I guess I have my own issues.  ZZK, no offense intended.  If I could (knew how) delete last post I would.

there's an edit button in the top right. just edit and replace the existing text with something else.

...edit

the botton shows up between the report and quote buttons for messages that belong to your ID.