Heat-Buckled Highway Blamed For Crash

[ionbeam]

"Troopers say the buckled pavement created a two-foot high ramp at mile marker 39. The OHP says when Lewis' 2008 Honda CBR hit the ramp, it went airborne for 150 feet, then skidded another 222 feet."

The picture is a clickable link.

 

[wheatonFJR]

oops...not enough expansion joints. :dribble:

 

[scubatech]

I used to work on these state highwaysin Colorado. I have seen some heaves usually at bridge joints,but never one this large. That will bring a huge law suit against the state of Oklahoma.

 

[Bounce]

Naw. All they have to do is show that the distance of the jump and the length of the skid afterward indicate a speed higher than the posted limit and they can ticket the operator for careless driving or unsafe for conditions. They can then wipe their hands of the whole thing.

 

[ScottyUSN]

Yesterday was the first day in weeks we stayed below 100+ for the majority of the day and that was due to rain and overcast conditions. At 111 Saturday, It's been a hot strange summer. Water mains breaking in numerous locations as well. No excuse for Oklahoma **** road conditions, and time that it takes for repairs is pathetic.

 

[wheatonFJR]

Yesterday was the first day in weeks we stayed below 100+ for the majority of the day and that was due to rain and overcast conditions. At 111 Saturday, It's been a hot strange summer. Water mains breaking in numerous locations as well. No excuse for Oklahoma **** road conditions, and time that it takes for repairs is pathetic.

I worked outdoors in OK City during the summer of 1980 for a landscaper.

30 days in a row of 100+ heat, with a high of 114 one day. I remember going past the bank thermometer one morning at 7am and it reading 95 degrees.

I learned to swim that summer.

 

[SkooterG]

Ouch! That's going to leave a mark.

From the article about it:

The Turnpike Authority says it's not unusual for the concrete to buckle when it gets hot and stays hot. Especially recently as the temperatures have stayed around 110 degrees for several days in a row.

What BS! Or, they don't know how to build roads in Oklahoma. We get those kinds of temps around here all the time and you don't see the roads buckling here.

 

[wheatonFJR]

What BS! Or, they don't know how to build roads in Oklahoma. We get those kinds of temps around here all the time and you don't see the roads buckling here.

These highways are built with Federal Highway funds, and as such need to follow Federal/AASHTO guidelines for road construction. Included in those guidelines are formulas to determine the length between Expansion Joints to prevent the type of buckling shown, based on various criteria for volume change - temperature being but one factor.

Basically, somebody fooked up.

 

[Bounce]

good point wheaton.

we usually get asphalt "flowing" in the heat and leaving "waves" in the surface parallel to the flow of traffic. i've stopped at intersections hand put my foot out on the ground that was higher than my foot peg while the bike set in the valley created in the blacktop by trucks driving on the flow.

if he jumped that far and skidded that far, he was going pretty fast. clearly he was going faster than he could SIPDE.

 

[SkooterG]

if he jumped that far and skidded that far, he was going pretty fast. clearly he was going faster than he could SIPDE.

Without more info, I am not willing to second guess the rider and any mistakes he might have made to contribute to the wreck. NOBODY expects a road hazard like that. And it was on a turnpike with higher allowed speeds. I am betting is was very difficult to see, especially if it was at night.

 

[dcarver]

I saw the accident happen. Chase was on a motorcycle. I was slightly below the speed limit when Chase passed me running at about the speed limit. The highway buckle was just over the crest of the hill. No way to see the buckle in time to avoid it. When Chase hit it, the buckle was closer to 4 feet high. It was knocked lower by a 3/4 ton pickup that completely cleared the ground when it hit it about a minute after Chase hit it. Chase flew/slid about 150 feet. His bike stopped about 150 feet beyond where Chase stopped. Fortunately, he was wearing good riding gear, or his injuries would have been much worse; possibly fatal. And I doubt that 40 people were stopped at the scene at any one time.

75 mph off a 15 degree ramp will travel through the air 189 feet. weight(or mass) is not part of the calculation. the 150 ft distance does not indicate excessive speed on the part of the rider. Prayers with him.

 

[not2shabby]

I saw the accident happen. Chase was on a motorcycle. I was slightly below the speed limit when Chase passed me running at about the speed limit. The highway buckle was just over the crest of the hill. No way to see the buckle in time to avoid it. When Chase hit it, the buckle was closer to 4 feet high. It was knocked lower by a 3/4 ton pickup that completely cleared the ground when it hit it about a minute after Chase hit it. Chase flew/slid about 150 feet. His bike stopped about 150 feet beyond where Chase stopped. Fortunately, he was wearing good riding gear, or his injuries would have been much worse; possibly fatal. And I doubt that 40 people were stopped at the scene at any one time.

75 mph off a 15 degree ramp will travel through the air 189 feet. weight(or mass) is not part of the calculation. the 150 ft distance does not indicate excessive speed on the part of the rider. Prayers with him.

can you say 'law suit'? Oh yeah!

 

[Bounce]

I saw the accident happen. Chase was on a motorcycle. I was slightly below the speed limit when Chase passed me running at about the speed limit. The highway buckle was just over the crest of the hill. No way to see the buckle in time to avoid it. When Chase hit it, the buckle was closer to 4 feet high. It was knocked lower by a 3/4 ton pickup that completely cleared the ground when it hit it about a minute after Chase hit it. Chase flew/slid about 150 feet. His bike stopped about 150 feet beyond where Chase stopped. Fortunately, he was wearing good riding gear, or his injuries would have been much worse; possibly fatal. And I doubt that 40 people were stopped at the scene at any one time.

75 mph off a 15 degree ramp will travel through the air 189 feet. weight(or mass) is not part of the calculation. the 150 ft distance does not indicate excessive speed on the part of the rider. Prayers with him.

i don't know who's being quoted or their expertise but thanks. that it was just over a crest means that it was more difficult to see. maybe ok needs to implement a day/night speed limit like tx?

 

[GalaxyBlue]

Oklahoma has some of the worst highways in America. Trust me, I feel every bump and expansion joint in my truck

I-40 in Arizona is now the worst. I cannot believe the amount of potholes that are not getting fixed properly. <_<

 

[wfooshee]

One of OK's problems is the soil. Of course it bakes in the heat, and shrinks, making the cracked look everybody knows. But when it rains, the clay swells with all that water being absorbed.

So not only does the concrete expand "a bit" in the sun, the dirt it sits on moves around. A lot.

I don't think any road surface more than 3 weeks old in Oklahoma can still be smooth.

I remember being at my cousin's house as a kid, we'd play marbles on the kitchen floor, as it was the largest open space in the house. It got to where we couldn't because the house was settling at the back, and moving down the hill towards the back yard. Interesting set of cracks you get in the walls and ceilings from that. Anyway, the kitchen floor started to look like a putting green when you tried to roll marbles on it, and they all collected themselves on the boards by the sink.

 

[rushes]

One of OK's problems is the soil. Of course it bakes in the heat, and shrinks, making the cracked look everybody knows. But when it rains, the clay swells with all that water being absorbed.

So not only does the concrete expand "a bit" in the sun, the dirt it sits on moves around. A lot.

I don't think any road surface more than 3 weeks old in Oklahoma can still be smooth.

I remember being at my cousin's house as a kid, we'd play marbles on the kitchen floor, as it weas the largest open space in the house. It got to where we couldn't because the house was settling at the back, and moving down the hill towards the back yard. Interesting set of cracks you get in the walls and ceilings from that. Anyway, the kitchen floor started to look like a putting green when you tried to roll marbles on it, and they all collected themselves on the boards by the sink.

No, phuck no....

I know what it is....

The native Americans are getting their revenge....

We hearded them from their homes and smiled and told them they could have this beautiful land...

This is only the beginning.....

 

[Bounce]

No, phuck no....
I know what it is....

The native Americans are getting their revenge....

We hearded them from their homes and smiled and told them they could have this beautiful land...

This is only the beginning.....

Shhhh... no one's supposed to hear about that [Dad's Cherokee]

 

[rushes]

No, phuck no....
I know what it is....

The native Americans are getting their revenge....

We hearded them from their homes and smiled and told them they could have this beautiful land...

This is only the beginning.....

Shhhh... no one's supposed to hear about that [Dad's Cherokee]

Maybe I shouldn't have said that.

My ex and kids are too.

Sorry.

I did not intend to offend....

Sincerely.

 

[Bounce]

You didn't offend. But you did rat us out, ya snitch. We have strong medicine to deal with that. Pay no attention to the gastric distress and bloody stools.