heated grip installation advice needed

[paulie]

I have a set of heated OEM heated grips to intall. I also have a G2 Ergo throttle tube to install. The grips came with a stock white throttle tube already glued into the right grip. (At least without having taken off the old grips I believe it is the same as stock) I need some help figuring out the correct sequence for the installation. It seems I could do it in one of two ways:

(1) Remove old grips, install the G2 tube as if I was going to reinstall the old grips. Remove the plastic tube from the heated grip. Install heated grip onto already installed G2.

OR

(2) Remove old grips, remove OEM plastic throttle tube, install G2 tube in place of plastic one while grips are off the bike, then do the heated grip install (now containing the G2).

My gut tells me #2 would be better as long as I am careful to line up the wire and the cam on the G2 in exactly the same way as the plastic one is aligned. But I am sure there are other considerations I am not thinking of.

One other factor is that my current throttle setup has too much play. I have not adjusted it because I knew I would be putting on the G2 and hot grips. As part of this whole install I will want to get the play out of the system. When does that adjustment most logically fit into the project?

Any advice out there? :questionmark:

 

[No One]

I have a set of heated OEM heated grips to intall. I also have a G2 Ergo throttle tube to install. The grips came with a stock white throttle tube already glued into the right grip. (At least without having taken off the old grips I believe it is the same as stock) I need some help figuring out the correct sequence for the installation. It seems I could do it in one of two ways:
(1) Remove old grips, install the G2 tube as if I was going to reinstall the old grips. Remove the plastic tube from the heated grip. Install heated grip onto already installed G2.

OR

(2) Remove old grips, remove OEM plastic throttle tube, install G2 tube in place of plastic one while grips are off the bike, then do the heated grip install (now containing the G2).

My gut tells me #2 would be better as long as I am careful to line up the wire and the cam on the G2 in exactly the same way as the plastic one is aligned. But I am sure there are other considerations I am not thinking of.

One other factor is that my current throttle setup has too much play. I have not adjusted it because I knew I would be putting on the G2 and hot grips. As part of this whole install I will want to get the play out of the system. When does that adjustment most logically fit into the project?

Any advice out there? :questionmark:

I have the instructions if you want them faxed over to ya........ First sentence on step one was this: 1) disassemble whole bike, and remove engine....... or something like that..... Take off a bunch of stuff to install heated grips.... LOL I haven’t done mine yet... LOL Don’t have ALL DAY !

Sorry I didn’t legitimately answer you two questions......

 

[Herkypilot]

Well I'd say, if you have an air compressor you've taken care of step 1. I would install the G2 on the bike to get a stable mount to hold the G2 while you work the new heated grip onto the bike. That would seem to be the easiest way to go. A compressor is a must though for an easy install.

Herkypilot

 

[paulie]

[ A compressor is a must though for an easy install.

Herkypilot

I'm about half way through the project. Since I don't have a compressor I followed some other advice I got to use a long skinny screwdriver and soapy water (I used Windex). The old grips came off in a flash - two or three minutes tops.

 

[Hit the Road Jack]

Option #1. Make sure that the new G2 tube is installed and working properly before installing the new heated grips.

The logic being to take one step at a time and insure their function rather than simultaneously installing two new items and having a problem that you're not sure of the source.

My two cents!

 

[DaveFJR]

I hope to do not damage your expensive stock heated grip element. If you use the G2, the surface is rough & a metal conductor vs. plastic one acts as an insulator. The G2 could cause a short. So, you may want a coat of paint on G2 or wrap electical tape around it to insulate it before installing the heated grip over it.

Note: I had a partial short with a Symantec element, not the stock $300 unit. Tape fixed the short. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[paulie]

Wow. A short. Has anyone else experienced this problem mentioned by DAVEFJR when using the G2 tube with a heated grip? In looking at it it seems like the rubber completely shields the heating element.

 

[paulie]

Another question - the new heated grip is slightly longer than the old, therefore the throttle tube is a bit longer. It is also longer than the G2 (in other words the G2 is shorter than the factory plastic throttle tube. Would there be a problem with having a bit of unsupported rubber "outboard" of the end of the G2?

 

[paulie]

Well, a final report on this thread. Grip and G2 tube installation was completed in a total of about 5 hours. By far the most time was spent getting the d$%^<$n throttle housing to go back together and wrestling the d$%^<$n body work back into position. Grip installation was a snap.

The one issue with the G2 is that it is a bit shorter than the plastic throttle tube that comes with the right grip (right grip is a bit longer than the left. You have to move the throttle tube inboard to the AE position). To deal with the short tube I cut a short length off of the discarded plastic tube and slipped it in behind the G2 tube before bolting on the bar end. It fills the gap nicely. The rest was a matter of deciding that bad language wouldn't git 'er done, relaxing, and reasoning with it.

What did I get for my $385 that I couldn't have gotten for $100 in an aftermarket grip? The main thing is a very slick stock looking installation. They give you a new throttle housing that is wider to accomodate the grip wire and has a separate exit slot for the wire. It comes with buttons on the wire to hold it in place inside the housing. (I've never seen an AE but I think it is the stock AE fitting - don't they come with hot grips as standard?). You also get a trick bracket to hold the wire to the clutch reservoir on the left side. Result: they look like they were meant to be there. IMHO the new throttle housing is worth quite a bit just in appearances. Anyone who is going to install AM grips (like Hot Grips) with a wire coming off in the same direction as the OEM grips might consider ordering just the throttle housing to route the wire through. Don't know how much it would cost if ordered alone but it looks good.

Second advantage was the easy install of the controller in the blank panel on the left. That looks professional also. The bracket they give you to bolt it into is da bomb.

Third advantage was the brainless hook up. All of the electrical work took 15 minutes max. Find four plugs, plug in the color-coded matching plugs. Full stop.

Fourth advantage: THEY WORK GREAT. Went for a ride in 50 deg. with sprinkles today. They warmed up quickly, I'd say they were at full temp within a mile, maybe two. On high setting they were too warm for my summer gloves. About half way on the dial (or less) was perfect. When it gets cold they are going to do the job.

Does all that add up to an extra $250? I'm thinking I'd do it again.

Shiny side up.

 

[bramfrank]

Your extra $$$ also got you grips that are 'speed sensitive', in that when the bike is running slowly power is cut by 50%, if the documentation in the service manual is to be believed. They are fully integrated with the electrical system, coming on only after you hit the starter, by the way.

I also installed a set of OEM grips (no G2) 2 weeks ago and just rode down from Montreal with a friend to where we are now in Waynesboro VA.

I am presently overnighting in a hotel, going to run the BRP tomorrow, the Dragon on Wednesday and so on. The first day was cold and gray - the grips were on low and were very comfortable - Yesterday we started down the BRP when the heavens opened up - had a 40 mile ride back to the starting line - the roads down from the BRP through the gaps here are SLICK when wet by the way - The grips were on high and made the run back quite bearable.

 

[vfr2fjr]

Well, a final report on this thread. Grip and G2 tube installation was completed in a total of about 5 hours. By far the most time was spent getting the d$%^<$n throttle housing to go back together and wrestling the d$%^<$n body work back into position. Grip installation was a snap.
The one issue with the G2 is that it is a bit shorter than the plastic throttle tube that comes with the right grip (right grip is a bit longer than the left. You have to move the throttle tube inboard to the AE position). To deal with the short tube I cut a short length off of the discarded plastic tube and slipped it in behind the G2 tube before bolting on the bar end. It fills the gap nicely. The rest was a matter of deciding that bad language wouldn't git 'er done, relaxing, and reasoning with it.

What did I get for my $385 that I couldn't have gotten for $100 in an aftermarket grip? The main thing is a very slick stock looking installation. They give you a new throttle housing that is wider to accomodate the grip wire and has a separate exit slot for the wire. It comes with buttons on the wire to hold it in place inside the housing. (I've never seen an AE but I think it is the stock AE fitting - don't they come with hot grips as standard?). You also get a trick bracket to hold the wire to the clutch reservoir on the left side. Result: they look like they were meant to be there. IMHO the new throttle housing is worth quite a bit just in appearances. Anyone who is going to install AM grips (like Hot Grips) with a wire coming off in the same direction as the OEM grips might consider ordering just the throttle housing to route the wire through. Don't know how much it would cost if ordered alone but it looks good.

Second advantage was the easy install of the controller in the blank panel on the left. That looks professional also. The bracket they give you to bolt it into is da bomb.

Third advantage was the brainless hook up. All of the electrical work took 15 minutes max. Find four plugs, plug in the color-coded matching plugs. Full stop.

Fourth advantage: THEY WORK GREAT. Went for a ride in 50 deg. with sprinkles today. They warmed up quickly, I'd say they were at full temp within a mile, maybe two. On high setting they were too warm for my summer gloves. About half way on the dial (or less) was perfect. When it gets cold they are going to do the job.

Does all that add up to an extra $250? I'm thinking I'd do it again.

Shiny side up.

Did you need a Service Manual for the '08 as stated in the OEM Grip instructions?