Honda follows Yamaha's lead

[gr8eyes]

Star banner? Not likely since its a Honda.

 

[freebirdforever]

I think it is rather tough looking. It's like buying a Porsche with an automatic transmission; all your buddies will give you crap but the chicks will still be oggling you.

Honda claims this is near production but they also claimed the Griffon was a near future release... and then it dissapeared.

A "cruiser style" 680cc automatic motorcycle and a 900cc scooter. Are X9-500 or Burg-650 owners really interested in a 900cc scoot that looks exactly like all the other 250cc, 400cc, and 600cc scoots? It would have made more sense to make a "cruiser style" 900cc automatic motorcycle and the 750cc flat-four Griffon.

"The motorcycle appears to be beyond the concept stage and nearly

ready for production. The DN-01 concept is equipped with a

continuously variable automatic transmission and a water-cooled, 4-

stroke, OHC, V-type, 2-cylinder, 680cc engine."

VIDEO:

https://www.honda.co.jp/motorshow/motor/conceptmodel/DN-

01/styling/index.html

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[slapnpop]

I've always been a fan of the long low and mean look.

1-845-457-1992 :haha:

I said long low and mean, not short fat and bitter.

But why'd you let her out of the cage and giver her access to a phone anyway?

I mean, I'd understand if it started with 1-900 and all the profits were re-directed to you.

Try putting that number in a tele look-up and see what you get. And by 'her', I hope you don't mean who I think you might mean. Bust on me all you want, but... <_<

I did that before I replied, but it came up unavailable. Looked like a cell number in NY.

 

[twowheelnut]

Verstehen Sie jetzt?

 

[nusman68]

Teutel Liebhaber!

 

[twowheelnut]

Es ist jene grossen arme!

 

[devanator]

That Automatic Bike from the 70's that was mentioned earlier was my very first bike back in 86. It was a 750 Hondamatic. They come on e-bay every now and then. I was actually thinking of buying one for my wife. They are easy to ride and I thought it was a fun bike to have for a first bike. Although this new one from Honda is in a different class of bike for sure. I kinda of like it too. (I still would not trade my fjr are for it though)

Devanator

 

[throttlejockeyTJ]

Hummm! Whats wrong with this picture. When you want to stimulate the interest of a Hetrosexual American Male you use a sexy female model with lots of tan skin showing. They use a shribled up Asian Male. Maybe the model fits the targeted buyers.

 

[smitty141]

Scooter, how dare you lock out my post.. Is this the new Blackbird!!!, I hope not!!!

I must have been a sleep, I never seen it. I was hoping for a WARNING!!! That 0% is bugging me... Like they said in the movie Animal House...

Thank you sir, may I have another.. :bleh: Smitty

 

[Woodstock]

Star banner? Not likely since its a Honda.

Opps, sorry.

I should be able to recognize a BlackBird, eh?

 

[vinnie]

everybody chill! :agent:

this bike will be big in the euro market, and will probably NEVER make it stateside. They love their scooters over there, and the Deauville -tho' it has the specs to make it here and sell quite nicely- has never been brought over.

The suit looks like he could flatfoot the bike sitting there and he looks pretty short. It has a huge "footboard", so basically you have a SilverWing that you have to straddle... Wonder how it corners?

Deal's Gap road kill!

 

[falcon]

I like it. Don't care either way about the auto though. With only 680cc its not going to be a rocket anyway. Probably an ideal commuter.

 

[freebirdforever]

Update - the engine is from the V-Twin Deauville [eoro-only model] tweaked to 680cc [64.5-hp]... compare that to the Honda Aero 750 at 48-hp. The wheelbase is 63.2 [it looks longer] compare the Aero at 64.5.

It provides the option of auto mode or manual thumb-shift mode [ala FJR1300-AE]. The demo model includes built-in speakers and integrated GPS and I suspect has some storage under the passenger seat. As is, it cannot be imported into the US as the new 2005 brake rules specify that clutchless-motorcycles must have right-foot brake.

Personally, I think it's a mistake for the FJR1300-AE and the DN-01 to lose the clutch - how do you blip the throtle?

 

[fjr]

I'll stick with my CBR....

 

[thegunslinger]

But,,,,,,does it come with an airbag?

 

[tripletango]

If it's an auto why the clutch lever? Or perhaps that's the rear brake?

Evidentially some of these new transmissions can be shifted manually with clutch or automatically. You choose.

They are more advanced than the AE in that regard.

The AE is not a clutched CVT trans. It is a regular box with an electric clutch. You shift it helps with a cpu.

 

[tripletango]

Update - the engine is from the V-Twin Deauville [eoro-only model] tweaked to 680cc [64.5-hp]... compare that to the Honda Aero 750 at 48-hp. The wheelbase is 63.2 [it looks longer] compare the Aero at 64.5.
It provides the option of auto mode or manual thumb-shift mode [ala FJR1300-AE]. The demo model includes built-in speakers and integrated GPS and I suspect has some storage under the passenger seat. As is, it cannot be imported into the US as the new 2005 brake rules specify that clutchless-motorcycles must have right-foot brake.

Personally, I think it's a mistake for the FJR1300-AE and the DN-01 to lose the clutch - how do you blip the throtle?

The later version has the 996 V Twin engine.

Maybe Honda will put the new 1800 V Twin turbo motor in it. Honda is putting this motor into a VTX type bike. If it goes into an ST1300 type bike, this will be formidable competition to the FJR.

Sorry to say to all you traditionalists it is the wave of the future!

I quite like it. Then again I have ordered an AE !!

Regarding blipping the throttle just put the AE into neutral. It is the bottom slot on the shift lever, where first is now. Like I say the AE is not not an automatic!

 

[tripletango]

I think it is rather tough looking. It's like buying a Porsche with an automatic transmission; all your buddies will give you crap but the chicks will still be oggling you.
Honda claims this is near production but they also claimed the Griffon was a near future release... and then it dissapeared.

A "cruiser style" 680cc automatic motorcycle and a 900cc scooter. Are X9-500 or Burg-650 owners really interested in a 900cc scoot that looks exactly like all the other 250cc, 400cc, and 600cc scoots? It would have made more sense to make a "cruiser style" 900cc automatic motorcycle and the 750cc flat-four Griffon.

"The motorcycle appears to be beyond the concept stage and nearly

ready for production. The DN-01 concept is equipped with a

continuously variable automatic transmission and a water-cooled, 4-

stroke, OHC, V-type, 2-cylinder, 680cc engine."

VIDEO:

https://www.honda.co.jp/motorshow/motor/conceptmodel/DN-

01/styling/index.html

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I have a B650. It is not a scooter as such in that the engine is forward of the rider unlike a scooter which has the engine behind the rider. It weighs in the region of 500lbs. It handles well enough and has enough power to run with most Harleys. It has good storage and is great for commuting or running to the store. It can be used as a touring bike by 90% of all riders. Obviously it will not appeal to most FJR riders.

However the next iteration of this type of bike are the new Hondas, Suzuki has a new hybrid on the way as well.

The liter versions of these hybrid bikes are going to perform and handle well. They usually have excellent weather protection and creature comforts built in, look like the future and will be priced right.

They are certainly destined for the touring/sport category.

 

[yamaholic]

I don't think that bike will sell well, at least in the US.

But...I could be wrong!

 

[tripletango]

I don't think that bike will sell well, at least in the US.
But...I could be wrong!

These bikes are not aimed at the traditional American market. Their target is new riders who may be enticed by looks and ease of use.

In this age of increasing gas prices, people are looking at alternatives.

I would swap my Burgman 650 for the E4 in a heart beat.

It is more powerful and lighter and handles like a sport bike

Honda E4