brazos parker
What??
Sell it...geez, a 145hp internal combustion engine getting hot...WTF is that all about?
Get a Schwinn...problem solved.
Get a Schwinn...problem solved.
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zorkler
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ibay and radman very funny stuff .............. have an 05 seems after the first 1500 it cooled down a bit . but i dont have a heat problem . remember this is a big bike . what was the last bike you owned ?
We know we're funny . We just want to start getting payed for our comedic talents. We can't continue emptying our collective comedic souls for the entertainment of the masses. ( Getting deep in here )
Must go now and recharge my humor batteries . As Radman would say , "Is this thing on ?"
By the way I'm jbay not ibay or ebay . Do I need a name tag ?
Geezer
Parsimonious Curmudgeon
Yes, the bike generates some heat because of the big engine and available power. The problem is two fold. First, too much of the heated air is finding it's way to the riders legs and lap. Second, the tank is not insulated well enough and it absorbs too much heat from the engine directly below. It des get better afetr the negine is broken in, but is still a problem.
Both of these can be remediated with simple inexpensive modifications. There are many fixes described in the forum regarding how to insulate the tank. I have not done this yet so I won't recommend any particular fix. I have, however, added a couple of short pieces of 1/2 inch pipe insulation to the back edges of the fairing to stop the heat from blasting my upper legs and lap. This works pretty well. The pipe insulation is already slit and it just slides on the edges of the fairing. Cheap and easy. I don't remember who suggested this but it was here on this forum. Now that it is getting cooler here in the northeast I have removed the insuulation and I appreciate the heat on my way to work in the cool morning air. It will probably extend my riding season by a month or so.
Both of these can be remediated with simple inexpensive modifications. There are many fixes described in the forum regarding how to insulate the tank. I have not done this yet so I won't recommend any particular fix. I have, however, added a couple of short pieces of 1/2 inch pipe insulation to the back edges of the fairing to stop the heat from blasting my upper legs and lap. This works pretty well. The pipe insulation is already slit and it just slides on the edges of the fairing. Cheap and easy. I don't remember who suggested this but it was here on this forum. Now that it is getting cooler here in the northeast I have removed the insuulation and I appreciate the heat on my way to work in the cool morning air. It will probably extend my riding season by a month or so.
twowheelnut
R.I.P. Our Motorcycling Friend
I hate these guys that come in here, make one stupid, lame-ass post and then never show back up... Prolly never had any nuts to begin with. :angry:
05fjrBluedevil
Well-known member
LOL, it is amazing how a new person with an obvious concern gets slamed in here.
This is also my first of the plastic Bikes and it seems to be extreme in the amount of heat it directly puts on the rider, gas boiling, tank burning the sh--t our of your thighs and a frame so hot, you feel like you just touched a burner on a stove.
This is probally the reason it took a few years for it to get here, don't forget the ticking tick tick tick!
Then again after shelling out twice as much as I've ever paid for a bike, I wish I would have known this upfront, would it have changed my mind dunno!
With gas at 3.19 a gallon I guess the logic I used to buy this might pay off!
especialy since we are heading for fall, can't wait!
I do not recall my 1400 INtruder getting this hot to me, but it has been ten years since I sold it.
Has any one ever though about putting an oil coller in fromt of the rad on this or is that just a bad thought, or what about a aux fan in front of the rad instead of these guards everyone is attaching. I saw one at pep boys that looks as though it will fit with no interference to the forks!
BTW I love this bike, almost bought a gs until I saw this on the net! knew it was going to be mine!
This is also my first of the plastic Bikes and it seems to be extreme in the amount of heat it directly puts on the rider, gas boiling, tank burning the sh--t our of your thighs and a frame so hot, you feel like you just touched a burner on a stove.
This is probally the reason it took a few years for it to get here, don't forget the ticking tick tick tick!
Then again after shelling out twice as much as I've ever paid for a bike, I wish I would have known this upfront, would it have changed my mind dunno!
With gas at 3.19 a gallon I guess the logic I used to buy this might pay off!
especialy since we are heading for fall, can't wait!
I do not recall my 1400 INtruder getting this hot to me, but it has been ten years since I sold it.
Has any one ever though about putting an oil coller in fromt of the rad on this or is that just a bad thought, or what about a aux fan in front of the rad instead of these guards everyone is attaching. I saw one at pep boys that looks as though it will fit with no interference to the forks!
BTW I love this bike, almost bought a gs until I saw this on the net! knew it was going to be mine!
teerex51
The Italian Scallion
And then, of course, the bike could be retrofitted to the French specs :detect: , whereby the engine is detuned and the heat decreases considerably.
This is, however, only advisable in very warm climates.
Most FJR owners who performed the mod in the Northern US and Canada have later been complaining about the "frozen bean syndrome" :blink: .
Just my .02 centimes worth.
Stef
This is, however, only advisable in very warm climates.
Most FJR owners who performed the mod in the Northern US and Canada have later been complaining about the "frozen bean syndrome" :blink: .
Just my .02 centimes worth.
Stef
zorkler
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is that your pet fish you are showing us?
teerex51
The Italian Scallion
Naw, Zorkler
That's the international icon for fishing.
I went "fishing" for some sucker who'd fall for the French detuned engines debate but all I managed to catch was youze :haha:
Stef
That's the international icon for fishing.
I went "fishing" for some sucker who'd fall for the French detuned engines debate but all I managed to catch was youze :haha:
Stef
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more like, another amazing troll with a lame concern gets what they deserve.
On a side note, maybe it is just my bike but the engine does put out a little heat, gee I don't know why, but there is no way that it is unbearable.
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zorkler
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1300 cc heat how can that be.
yanktar
Over the hill--and going faster!
So start riding in October and stop in May!
yamaholic
Well-known member
Guys-
Why the bashing? New guy has an honest question, and we flame right up. Shouldn't we be trying to HELP fellow FJR riders, not make them think we're a bunch of flaming asswipes? Sorry, but I've noticed a certain lack of respect here for new owners.
FJR's are hot! But...Depends on you. Depends on the bike. Not all are hot. My '03 was. But I took drastic steps to resolve it. The result, problem solved. There are many, many heat fixes available. Search around the 3 FJR forums out there (I won't list them) for fixes. You'll have hours of reading material.
Now...I do kinda agree with what was said...prolly not the best idea to make the first post into "this bike has problems" . Makes you look like a BMW marketing rep who's putting FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) out there on the competition. We all love the bike. We all soon realize that is does have a few items to address (suspension, windflow, heat, vibration, lack of shaft lube, heavy throttle spring, etc, etc). But there are fixes...some free, some very cheap, some not-so-cheap.
Welcome to the board, hope your second post isn't met with the same warm welcome...
Why the bashing? New guy has an honest question, and we flame right up. Shouldn't we be trying to HELP fellow FJR riders, not make them think we're a bunch of flaming asswipes? Sorry, but I've noticed a certain lack of respect here for new owners.
FJR's are hot! But...Depends on you. Depends on the bike. Not all are hot. My '03 was. But I took drastic steps to resolve it. The result, problem solved. There are many, many heat fixes available. Search around the 3 FJR forums out there (I won't list them) for fixes. You'll have hours of reading material.
Now...I do kinda agree with what was said...prolly not the best idea to make the first post into "this bike has problems" . Makes you look like a BMW marketing rep who's putting FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) out there on the competition. We all love the bike. We all soon realize that is does have a few items to address (suspension, windflow, heat, vibration, lack of shaft lube, heavy throttle spring, etc, etc). But there are fixes...some free, some very cheap, some not-so-cheap.
Welcome to the board, hope your second post isn't met with the same warm welcome...
multiple months of 100+° F temps means that all bikes are hot where i live.
wearing real riding gear instead of shorts and flip flops mitigates the heat as much as anything on any bike can when the ambient temps mean that the asphalt is liquifying underneath your tires.
wearing real riding gear instead of shorts and flip flops mitigates the heat as much as anything on any bike can when the ambient temps mean that the asphalt is liquifying underneath your tires.
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rick
Guest
I wanted to thank those who helped me with my concern regarding my hot running FJR. Others please don’t be offended. Like you I did some serious (but obviously not enough) research before I bought this bike, and spent the same amount of hard earned cash. Unfortunately, I just wasn’t able to test drive one first and the dealer didn’t mention this common complaint.
Like you, I love the bike too, but it seems so many of you agreed with my concern. Plus if Mr. Charismaticmegafauna actually received 1st & 2nd degree burns on his thighs, you gotta admit the bike has a major design flaw that Yamaha needs to hear about. This will help them correct it to minimize others from potentially receiving burns, and provide constructive feedback in order for them to perpetually improve their products. If the bike was 100%, just maybe the dealers would stock them along with the rest of the product line.
No, Mr. Yamaholic, I promise I'm not a BMW marketing rep. It was a VERY painful and difficult decision to make, but I’ve decided to keep the FJR and try to work through this issue. Perhaps I have the hottest running one out there, but relative to my FJ1200, my experience can be summarized with the following equation: 100 extra cc’s + 20 HP + liquid cooling = 4X heat on the rider. This doesn’t compute, but Yamaha paid attention and is at least doing their homework. The ’06 model features a “new airflow management system and heat shielding that works to keep both the rider and the bike cooler and more comfortable”. Maybe they'll offer the heat shielding kit as a backwards compatible upgrade since the rest of the bike is rumored to be basically the same.
Know anyone interested in a ’91 FJ1200 with 30K miles in mint condition? I mean showroom.
Power in Numbers,
Rick
Like you, I love the bike too, but it seems so many of you agreed with my concern. Plus if Mr. Charismaticmegafauna actually received 1st & 2nd degree burns on his thighs, you gotta admit the bike has a major design flaw that Yamaha needs to hear about. This will help them correct it to minimize others from potentially receiving burns, and provide constructive feedback in order for them to perpetually improve their products. If the bike was 100%, just maybe the dealers would stock them along with the rest of the product line.
No, Mr. Yamaholic, I promise I'm not a BMW marketing rep. It was a VERY painful and difficult decision to make, but I’ve decided to keep the FJR and try to work through this issue. Perhaps I have the hottest running one out there, but relative to my FJ1200, my experience can be summarized with the following equation: 100 extra cc’s + 20 HP + liquid cooling = 4X heat on the rider. This doesn’t compute, but Yamaha paid attention and is at least doing their homework. The ’06 model features a “new airflow management system and heat shielding that works to keep both the rider and the bike cooler and more comfortable”. Maybe they'll offer the heat shielding kit as a backwards compatible upgrade since the rest of the bike is rumored to be basically the same.
Know anyone interested in a ’91 FJ1200 with 30K miles in mint condition? I mean showroom.
Power in Numbers,
Rick
Noob to the forum and the FJR... actually soon to be, as I don't own the bike yet. Waiting for the 2006...
I found this on the Yamaha website that may confirm what the OP is refering to...
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FJR1300 - Supersport Touring Perfection
For 2006, listening to FJR owners has led to a tremendous amount of refinement for rider and passenger alike. New airflow management works to keep both the rider and the bike cooler and more comfortable, while adjustable seat, handlebars, windscreen and middle fairing make it easy to find the perfect position. New bodywork, lights, mirrors and instrumentation raise the level of quality, and a new fuel-injection system and unified brake system with standard ABS add to the FJR’s exceptional functionality.
Electrically adjustable windscreen with greater range of adjustment for improved wind protection
High-quality instrumentation with integrated gear indicator
Adjustable seat, handlebars and middle cowling
New, standard ABS system with unified braking system
Sleeker, slimmer overall profile
New airflow management system and heat shielding
12V power outlet
Cobalt Blue
* More information to come September 28.*
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https://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products...0/features.aspx
k9
I found this on the Yamaha website that may confirm what the OP is refering to...
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FJR1300 - Supersport Touring Perfection
For 2006, listening to FJR owners has led to a tremendous amount of refinement for rider and passenger alike. New airflow management works to keep both the rider and the bike cooler and more comfortable, while adjustable seat, handlebars, windscreen and middle fairing make it easy to find the perfect position. New bodywork, lights, mirrors and instrumentation raise the level of quality, and a new fuel-injection system and unified brake system with standard ABS add to the FJR’s exceptional functionality.
Electrically adjustable windscreen with greater range of adjustment for improved wind protection
High-quality instrumentation with integrated gear indicator
Adjustable seat, handlebars and middle cowling
New, standard ABS system with unified braking system
Sleeker, slimmer overall profile
New airflow management system and heat shielding
12V power outlet
Cobalt Blue
* More information to come September 28.*
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https://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products...0/features.aspx
k9
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yamaholic
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Great! Just do some research on the heat fixes. Do several of them. Namely, cromeit, tank shielding, and fairing insulation. If you need any help, PM or email me. Would be glad to help a new rider. We had to figure all this out on our own back "in the day of the new FJR". So if I can help the next generation out, I'm sure it will save you a ton of time and hastle.
