Improved Handling?
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luvtoride
My Indian name is "Pants On Fire"
I was serious in my earlier reply, Terry... I've assumed that lean angle is part of the bike's handling characteristics.
Is it or is it not part of the bike's handling characteristics, guys?
Those links are going to reduce your available lean angle & that's a solid fact. That is what I was getting at.
Is it or is it not part of the bike's handling characteristics, guys?
Those links are going to reduce your available lean angle & that's a solid fact. That is what I was getting at.
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Capt. Bob
Bilge pump. A novel idea.
I got news for you Terry.
If you want ANY bike to handle better at parking lot speeds and spacing it needs to come from YOU and not some guru. :glare:
HaulinAshe
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I think it's fair to say that priorities vary, depending on how many times the same question gets repeated. Learning to use the search function so you get results can take some time. Getting your suspension dialed-in takes a lot MORE time. I wouldn't discount the benefit of either.
Changing suspension geometry affects handling. Whether that is a positive or negative effect depends on a host of variables and personal riding habits. What expert declared this finding?
I'm glad you found an expert too. Now don't be surprised if you take the time to ask other "suspension experts" (a.k.a Total Control, Proformance etc.) about Traxxion and find their response to be less than positive. Everyone has opinions and approaches to suspension. Every suspension change is a trade-off of one performance factor for another. Finding the right fit for you is the key.
Suspension professionals are typically not very "complementary" of one another, but don't confuse that with one being an "expert".
Next time you dive into this forum, please try to set a better example of tolerance and humility. Try to share positive aspects of the knowledge you gained by all your vast searching and conversations with experts. The collective masses will benefit and that's what the forum is truly about.
And don't forget to search out how to use the "block" feature so that you never read anything I post, ever again.
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CRMH Eagle
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Options for you:
1. Get a GSX-R 600.
2. Ride a road king all week. Then ride the FJR and you'll be amazed how much more you can manuever the bike.
(Good natured ribbing for you )
1. Get a GSX-R 600.
2. Ride a road king all week. Then ride the FJR and you'll be amazed how much more you can manuever the bike.
(Good natured ribbing for you
)
W.M.-Millman
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+1 Depending how slow you are going, some more experiened riders that I hang with say to scooth your butt a little opposite the way you are turning changes your center and you can turn tighter at slower speeds.
Terry,
1. Learn to use search function.
2. Clicky Buy vid, go to parking lot (when empty) and practice. This **** works if you practice!
You will need to overcome the fear of dropping your bike and these exercises will help. Just remember, we got peeps dumping their rides while filling up. Too bad they don't plant trees next to the pumps.
madmike2
Shtirrenuppenmeister
Yes, it can! (Of course, I've changed the rear shock and the fork springs.....and I'm always trying different brands of tires to find what combination works best for me.)
Mine handles fairly well at slow speeds and in tight turns. There's always the possibility it's your technique or skill set that needs to be "honed" so you have more confidence in:
a.) Your own increased ability
b.) The FJRs capability
Then again, I've attended a couple of schools and I practice slow speed maneuvers in empty parking lots. BTW, I practice emergency stops, too.
Huh!?!?!? There is plenty of good information. There is an extreme lack of willingness to take you by the hand and walk you through suspension set-up. That should be done by someone "at hand" while you are trying various changes, not someone on the internet thousands of miles away.
Au contrere, mon ami!
From the Kouba Link website:
"5) Depending on which KoubaLinks you have, determines if and how much the rear is being lowered, so keep in mind if you lower the rear one inch etc., to maintain the same geometry (if desired) the front would require approx. the same amount of lowering. Do not slide the front fork tubes up in the triple clamps more than necessary, as the fender/tire could come in contact with the bottom of the triple clamps when fully compressed. Sliding the fork tubes up less than 1/2" is preferred. Lowering the rear more than the front should make the bike more stable when going strait but will not turn as quickly. To make it turn quicker (if desired) the forks can be slid up in the triple clamps and/or by increasing the rear spring preload to raise the rear"
I do not understand how changing the ratio (the links ARE part of the suspension geometry and, as such, will affect the rear shock spring ratio) will not affect the handling. Plus, you are lowering the entire bike which would effectively modify the overall wheelbase/height relationship. If you want quicker turn-in it will require shortening the front tube ratio or lengthening the rear ride height in order to affect the front geometry (rake/trail).
I, for one, have repeatedly suggested Traxxion to those who live in the East. But then, since you've done your research, you already know that. (One assumes you actually used Google: suspension modifications site:fjrforum.com, or Traxxion site:fjrforum.com, or whatever else you might want to research.....) Most owners don't have the expertise required to help you in the way that a specialized shop like Traxxion should. Why would you expect us to have their kind of knowledge and experience?
Be glad this isn't Dogpile Friday. The "whiney-baby" attitude you exhibit ("Mommy, nobody answered my question exactly as I wanted!") is like throwing fresh steaks into the Dogpound.......
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luvtoride
My Indian name is "Pants On Fire"
TerryG
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Gee Capt. Bob you sound soooooo bitter, I guess we got up on the wrong side of the bed!
I'm so sorry
I'm so sorry
Zorlac
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You've been here for a year and you come back for more on a Friday???
WOW, you are brave. :blink:
WOW, you are brave. :blink:
TerryG
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Hey Cadman,
I must confess I am very impressed with your lengthy discourse on such a serious technical issue. Your wonderful command of the English language is astonishing, bravo sir bravo! I'll be sure to send you a PM the next time I need help and not bother these other nice folks. Obviously your the man, big ones and all!
Buy the way one last note, There are new members joining the forum every week I had hoped that just maybe there was someone new that might have something constructive to add to this topic. Guess I missed that one, oops!
Later!
I must confess I am very impressed with your lengthy discourse on such a serious technical issue. Your wonderful command of the English language is astonishing, bravo sir bravo! I'll be sure to send you a PM the next time I need help and not bother these other nice folks. Obviously your the man, big ones and all!
Buy the way one last note, There are new members joining the forum every week I had hoped that just maybe there was someone new that might have something constructive to add to this topic. Guess I missed that one, oops!
Later!
Last note is right. You're done in this thread with the passive-aggressive crap. :angry:
This is the kind of attitude that makes administrators think about whether you need to be a continued member or not. In amongst the ribbing...you did get some good advice. MadMike2 even tried to help you out in a VERY patient way....which you seemingly glossed over.
You've been here a year...you know the score.
I would suggest seriously rethinking whether you'd like to be more of a forum contributor in the future....or not bother coming back.
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