Is this the wireless communication system

[Fencer]

The only diff I see in this and the Blue Ant or Cardo Systems BT headsets are is the stereo music capability. The other two have systems that do what this one does at less price. I should know, I have both.

 

[TheBlueStreak]

The Cardo Scala Q2 got a good review from Webbikeworld.

Clicky: https://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-int...scala-rider-q2/

 

[Fred W]

The only diff I see in this and the Blue Ant or Cardo Systems BT headsets are is the stereo music capability. The other two have systems that do what this one does at less price. I should know, I have both.

Really? The Blue Ant Interphone has a single earpiece, so I wouldn't want to even listen to monaural music in just one ear. And where do you plug your GMRS radio into the Cardo or Interphone? The range of FRS/GMRS in bike to bike is far superior to BT. It also allows group communication with multiple riders.

I see these as completely different approaches to wireless communication. Most wireless helmet set-ups (like the ones you mention) try to BT directly from the headset to each peripheral device, to the pillion's headset, and/or bike to bike but there are limitations to that since you can generally only pair to 2 devices simultaneously and BT range is limited. The latest ones we've been discussing here only BT from the headset to the central box which then handles prioritizing the audio sources, and allows adding any possible peripheral you could ever want without that peripheral having to be blue tooth compatible.

Waiting anxiously for FJRandy's next post...

 

[2006FJR]

I spent $205 for TWO units for both my wife and I and it works great for our basic needs. I bought a Motocomm MC-752 and a Motorola TALKABOUT T9500XLR Two Way Radios to install into both of our Multitec helmets. They were easy to install and had great sound. That also included the iPod connection so we could also listen to music while we ride.

 

[Fred W]

I spent $205 for TWO units for both my wife and I and it works great for our basic needs. I bought a Motocomm MC-752 and a Motorola TALKABOUT T9500XLR Two Way Radios to install into both of our Multitec helmets. They were easy to install and had great sound. That also included the iPod connection so we could also listen to music while we ride.

I actually own 2 of the Motocomm Riderlink ST-1 units (one for my bike, one for my son's). They do work well, but they are not wireless to the helmet, and they are not stereo sound (they are binaural mono). There is the MXR-1 adapter available now that can be used to patch a stereo sound source (iPod, GPS, whatever) into the Riderlink cable, but at this point I am wanting to go wireless to the helmet.

 

[Fencer]

The only diff I see in this and the Blue Ant or Cardo Systems BT headsets are is the stereo music capability. The other two have systems that do what this one does at less price. I should know, I have both.

Really? The Blue Ant Interphone has a single earpiece, so I wouldn't want to even listen to monaural music in just one ear. And where do you plug your GMRS radio into the Cardo or Interphone? The range of FRS/GMRS in bike to bike is far superior to BT. It also allows group communication with multiple riders.

I see these as completely different approaches to wireless communication. Most wireless helmet set-ups (like the ones you mention) try to BT directly from the headset to each peripheral device, to the pillion's headset, and/or bike to bike but there are limitations to that since you can generally only pair to 2 devices simultaneously and BT range is limited. The latest ones we've been discussing here only BT from the headset to the central box which then handles prioritizing the audio sources, and allows adding any possible peripheral you could ever want without that peripheral having to be blue tooth compatible.

Waiting anxiously for FJRandy's next post...

As I said they are not stereo.

I can listen to music through my garmin (which does not broadcast in stereo, so a stereo reciever is pointless) and on my phone through the garmin as well, so it acts as the hub.

Stereo is not a must have for me as it seems to be for others.

If you want to use GMRS add a BT dongle to the GMRS mic port and you are good.

Feel free to purchase whatever you want. This system seems stupid expensive at the current price.

 

[BrunDog]

I am in agreement with FredW on this whole thing. We just need to break the link between the head and the bike.

In similar news, I spoke with JM Corp on friday, and they said their BT unit will pair to multipe Headset profiles, so a dongle connecting to the FRS radio, using its own VOX as I mentioned above and Fencer just reiterated may by my way to go. Problem is, JM has a strict NO RETURN policy on BT units. That is a dealbreaker to me, as I am not going to risk $300 to test it.

What does Randy have up his sleeve?

-BD

 

[automag928]

While I'm waiting on FJRandy's response - take a look at this and tell me if this would work....I'm still in the planning phase of my BT / nav / audio integration project....

https://www.benchmarkhelmets.com/products/c...mos-600_36.html

This helmet BT stereo setup

Zumo 550

Cellphone

Mixit2

Jabra A120s

Escort 8500

Ipod

Also I could buy another BT helmet setup and use that as the second channel to communicate with my pillon...

Phone/NAV BT-> Zumo BT-> Headset

Escort 8500 Wire-> Mixit Wire-> Jabra A120S (on stereo output of Mixit) BT-> Headset

Ipod Wire-> Mixit BT-> Headset

Basically I'm wanting to be wireless on the bike via stereo bluetooth, and I have an Ipod, radar and nav - with the phone BT connected to the nav. Is there an easier way to doing this?

 

[rockabill]

Don't go selling off your old Autocoms yet folks.I just picked up a Bluetooth kit that I think will literally plug right in. And it has a display!

I'll post up after I play around with it this weekend. I think I might be on to something here.

Any news yet??? Did you get a chance to test your new system?

 

[schrecke]

Well, here is another company that has the same idea: Dimton
even less information about this one.

Dimton doesn't have US distributor yet, or at least they didn't in February when I emailed them.

You can buy the BAT-01 (the central hub part) for $300 USD and the BSH-01 (the helmet headset) for $185 USD direct from this guy I was emailing.

Email snippets:

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Hi,

Thank you for your email.

At moment, we don’t have any distributor in US, and our online system will be ready next month.

If you would like to buy our products, we can supply you directly.

BAT-01 USD 300 + shipping

BSH-01 USD 185 + shipping

If you would like to buy, please let me know

Regards

Calvin

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Calvin is based in Taiwan and can be reached at calvin.lee at dimton dot com if anyone wants to pursue further.

That is all the info I have, getting that was like pulling teeth.

 

[Fred W]

Well, here is another company that has the same idea: Dimton
even less information about this one.

Dimton doesn't have US distributor yet, or at least they didn't in February when I emailed them.

You can buy the BAT-01 (the central hub part) for $300 USD and the BSH-01 (the helmet headset) for $185 USD direct from this guy I was emailing.

Email snippets:

-------

Hi,

Thank you for your email.

At moment, we don’t have any distributor in US, and our online system will be ready next month.

If you would like to buy our products, we can supply you directly.

BAT-01 USD 300 + shipping

BSH-01 USD 185 + shipping

If you would like to buy, please let me know

Regards

Calvin

-------

Calvin is based in Taiwan and can be reached at calvin.lee at dimton dot com if anyone wants to pursue further.

That is all the info I have, getting that was like pulling teeth.

I agree, that is very close to being what we are talking about wanting here. But as you say, the details are... well, the details aren't. They do not mention if the headset is true stereo. They also do not mention how many devices can be paired to the wireless headset.

The big place that this unit seems to fall apart is that they don't seem to have the ability to BT connect from the base unit to two headsets. Maybe they can, but it just doesn't appear to be the case.

 

[colin]

yeah, i went looking through blue bike docs. Bit tough to get details, and yeah, price is pretty silly at this point.

I'm going in for something more wired just now. I'm going to bet on our friends at starcom and autocom catching up soon with something that will 'fit in' with the existing products.....

But really, having effectively a bluetooth stereo Starcom is what we need. The biggest prob I see with helmets going stereo is the stupid add ons. I just want a helmet. no dongles, no things sticking out of the side, etc. It can be done, but you need something like this blue bike to make it work from what I see....

just ordered a bunch of stuff from Jeff at Bike Effects..... (what a great guy!). So that'll sort me out for the year I think..... will check back later!

 

[bmwhd]

Well, here is another company that has the same idea: Dimton
even less information about this one.

Dimton doesn't have US distributor yet, or at least they didn't in February when I emailed them.

You can buy the BAT-01 (the central hub part) for $300 USD and the BSH-01 (the helmet headset) for $185 USD direct from this guy I was emailing.

Email snippets:

-------

Hi,

Thank you for your email.

At moment, we don’t have any distributor in US, and our online system will be ready next month.

If you would like to buy our products, we can supply you directly.

BAT-01 USD 300 + shipping

BSH-01 USD 185 + shipping

If you would like to buy, please let me know

Regards

Calvin

-------

Calvin is based in Taiwan and can be reached at calvin.lee at dimton dot com if anyone wants to pursue further.

That is all the info I have, getting that was like pulling teeth.

I agree, that is very close to being what we are talking about wanting here. But as you say, the details are... well, the details aren't. They do not mention if the headset is true stereo. They also do not mention how many devices can be paired to the wireless headset.

The big place that this unit seems to fall apart is that they don't seem to have the ability to BT connect from the base unit to two headsets. Maybe they can, but it just doesn't appear to be the case.

They do mention the A2DP protocol so I'm guessing the headsets are true stereo and that price beats the snot out of BlueBike and J&M.