Lane-Sharing Graphic from OC Register

[NightShine]

I am gonna keep quiet on this one. :huh: R

I thought you might, Tiger, especially with all that nonsense about how you can't use the right shoulder...

You can't use the right shoulder!? :cray:

When lane @*#-ing, does anyone EVER ride between two cars while they are next to each other???

When cars are adjacent, they are much less likely to make any sudden lane changes. Where as, no adjacent car in the next lane should be a big danger sign to the lane sharing biker. You have to assume that that car it just itching to take the open space...

 

[twowheelnut]

When lane @*#-ing, does anyone EVER ride between two cars while they are next to each other???

When cars are adjacent, they are much less likely to make any sudden lane changes. Where as, no adjacent car in the next lane should be a big danger sign to the lane sharing biker. You have to assume that that car it just itching to take the open space...

I betcha shared lanes with that tent behind you, din'nit'cha?! :lol:

 

[James Burleigh]

 

[twowheelnut]

:lol:

 

[HYCLE]

This picture is a better example of when I share lanes.

The cars are trapped in position with no gap large enough for them to change lanes.

In the lane splitting graphic, if there was that much room between cars, they would be going 80 mph.

I prefer to share lanes when the cars are completely stopped with no way they can change lanes.

On the Friday night I rode to Tahoe, I crossed the Yolo Causeway sharing the number 1 lane at about 20 mph.

At one point a large black SUV, with emergency lights and shotgun sticking up by the radio, moved over to let my ride by.

They were escorting a black limo to the capitol building, in Sacramento. They passed me later when the traffic got back up to speed and took an exit by the capitol building.

 

[miguel]

i commute to work on my FJR and the commute home in the evening is mostly lane-splitting on the northbound 605 (between the carpool and no. 1 lane) and the eastbound 60 (between the no. 1 and 2 lanes).

it is indeed legal to ride inside the double-double yellow that separates the carpool lane from the number 1 lane, as told to me by a CHP officer back in 2000 who ticketed me whilst on my moto. but not all SoCal freeways have this "buffer." you can cross over the double yellow closest to the carpool lane in order to enter the buffer, but you can't cross over the second set of double yellows and enter the number 1 lane. personally, i don't like riding in that space because it tends to collect debris that can give you a flat (this happened to me).

IMHO, the key to being safe while lane-splitting is to be hyper-aware of what the cars ahead of you might do AND don't ride too much faster than the cars you are passing.

 

[FJRBluesman]

miguel - If I were you I'd look that up in the vehicle code. I was sited for just that. Actaully I went onto the line, I never fully crossed it. The traffic school intstructor said I should have fought it. I didn't want to risk it at the time. The code states nothing about a buffer zone verbiage at all. I don't care what the cop says. I want to know what the "law" says.

**EDIT*** Found it. Ca Vehicle Code:

21655.8. (a) Except as required under subdivision , when exclusive or preferential use lanes for high-occupancy vehicles are established pursuant to Section 21655.5 and double parallel solid lines are in place to the right thereof, no person driving a vehicle may cross over these double lines to enter into or exit from the exclusive or preferential use lanes, and entrance or exit may be made only in areas designated for these purposes or where a single broken line is in place to the right of the exclusive or preferential use lanes.

 


Upon the approach of an authorized emergency vehicle displaying a red light or siren, as specified in Section 21806, a person driving a vehicle in an exclusive or preferential use lane shall exit that lane immediately upon determining that the exit can be accomplished with reasonable safety.

 

[miguel]

that vehicle code doesn't mention the space between the double-double yellows...it only refers to entering/exiting the carpool lane completely. i used the term "buffer" for lack of a better term. i didn't mean to imply that it was part of the code verbiage.

the CHiP that told me that it was ok to ride in the buffer, told me so after he was done ticketing me. i told him that i didn't want to split traffic anymore because he bummed me out. he chuckled and told me to follow him in the buffer...he'd split the traffic ahead of me. *******!

this may be one of those gray scenarios that depend on the officer's mood as to wether or not we get a ticket.

 

[twowheelnut]

Double yellows and solid white lines are no crossing zones (unless you need to yield to an emergency vehicle or take emergency action). Period. Don't even share lanes in these areas because you will get a ticket if observed. You can argue all you want, but if the judge hears that you crossed for an invalid reasons, bang, next case please.

 

[donaldb]

Hell.............you guy's out there on the left coast are way to technical with all this solid single and double yellow and white lane strips.

Down here in MS we have no lane markings..........it's too hard to keep all those painted little gravel pieces from being displaced.

fancy schmancy

Just don't laugh at my knobbies at NAFO........so you'll know.

 

[FJRBluesman]

Double yellows and solid white lines are no crossing zones (unless you need to yield to an emergency vehicle or take emergency action). Period. Don't even share lanes in these areas because you will get a ticket if observed. You can argue all you want, but if the judge hears that you crossed for an invalid reasons, bang, next case please.

Gunny!

The white painted stripe is considered the "shoulder". If you're on the line or over it, they consider you driving on the shoulder. It's all in the code. Double yellows can only be crossed if pulling into a driveway, or road, that's also covered in CVC21655.8c.

 

[Fairlaner]

Double yellows and solid white lines are no crossing zones (unless you need to yield to an emergency vehicle or take emergency action). Period. Don't even share lanes in these areas because you will get a ticket if observed. You can argue all you want, but if the judge hears that you crossed for an invalid reasons, bang, next case please.

Gunny!

The white painted stripe is considered the "shoulder". If you're on the line or over it, they consider you driving on the shoulder. It's all in the code. Double yellows can only be crossed if pulling into a driveway, or road, that's also covered in CVC21655.8c.

And we never do that...................

R

Code what ******* code.

 

[Old Michael]

At one point a large black SUV, with emergency lights and shotgun sticking up by the radio, moved over to let my ride by.They were escorting a black limo to the capitol building, in Sacramento. They passed me later when the traffic got back up to speed and took an exit by the capitol building.

That was me Mike. I told 'em to let you by. Told 'em you were old and deserved respect.