LEO Question

[SoCalFJR1300]

Does anyone know when the cops pull you over and they run you from their car how many years can they run back on you?

I know when you go to court the judge has your whole driving record in front of him, but was wondering how much the cops can pull??

 

[HotRodZilla]

All of it. From the first citation you ever got...

 

[SoCalFJR1300]

All of it. From the first citation you ever got...

Is that just for the state your licence is in?? My first licence was in Michigan.

 

[Tyler]

What if you get stopped but not cited? Is that on your record??

 

[SoCalFJR1300]

What if you get stopped but not cited? Is that on your record??

No. It's only recorded if you're cited.

 

[HotRodZilla]

All of it. From the first citation you ever got...

Is that just for the state your licence is in?? My first licence was in Michigan.

Yes...So if I pull you over tomorrow and run your CA license (assuming you have a CA license) I will get your CA history. If I somehow found out you used to live in Michigan, I could run there too, but usually that's a waste of time. If I'm investigating something more serious, I can pull another file that does a criminal history check that will show every cite, arrest and conviction you ever had. However, those are CLOSELY audited and have to be attached to a case number to pull. Also, I can sign for my own, but I have to sign for/approve the ones my people ask for. Basically, if someone pulls that file, you're being charged with something serious.
Most common is Felon in Possession of a Firearm.

What if you get stopped but not cited? Is that on your record??

No...The paper trail is created with citations or arrests. Not verbal or written warnings. Now, if you get a written warning in my jurisdiction, 4 days later it will show on our local system that you got a warning, but that goes away in 90 days and no one else anywhere can see them. Galaxy Blue did say written warnings have some effect on CDL drivers, but I don't know how to access that.

 

[HotRodZilla]

What if you get stopped but not cited? Is that on your record??

No. It's only recorded if you're cited.

Well, yes and no. If I get stopped and the LEO runs my plate and then me, but just gives me a verbal warning, there is no "paperwork." However, if someone REALLY wanted to know, they could find out my information was run through NCIC. Donno how long those records are held. If I stop someone and run them, my system will show if they have been run by anyone else in NM in the last 10 days...but only NM, and I don't know how many departments use this type of software.

 

[SoCalFJR1300]

Ok Thanks Zilla.

Haven't been cited since 2007 (passing over double yellow) was just wondering.

 

[Bounce]

And, in many states, it will also flag if you have a CHL/CCW.

 

[ionbeam]

...CHL/CCW.

Translation, not everyone has/does this: Concealed Handgun License; Carrying a Concealed Weapon

 

[Bounce]

My point was that, even when state law dowsn't "require" disclosure without being explicitly asked, it's usually a wise thing to offer that you have a CHL/CCW when an LEO makes "a contact". At the very least it may lower the officer tension that might happen if the system pops the flag and you didn't say anything. They always like to know you're a good guy.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Our system flags CCW carriers. There has never been any "tension". I've yet to deal with a CCW holder who acted like a ****** bag.

 

[Greg 03]

I'll echo what zilla said... LEO's can run everything in your history. But, a state by state query takes a LONG time and I usually don't have the desire to stand on the side of the road behind my police motor that long. Typically when your license is run it will give a three to five year return on history and convictions. Additionally our system will identify how many times a subject has been run by others in my jurisdiction. Some states provide more information than others as well. It's an imperfect system just like all databases. Hell I've had late returns on felony warrants come back AFTER I've concluded a traffic stop and other times I've had fifteen year old ten dollar rabies tag warrants show up!

 

[Bearly Flying]

"Galaxy Blue did say written warnings have some effect on CDL drivers,"

Zilla, You didn't write up Galaxy Blue did you? Come on we want details........

 

[Bounce]

Our system flags CCW carriers. There has never been any "tension". I've yet to deal with a CCW holder who acted like a ****** bag.

good to know. i know i try to be on my best behavior but that's always been the case.

you weren't an LEO in TX prior to the passage of the CHL law. the antis had the ear of so many CoP that we had some publicly stating they'd resign if the bill passed. the rank-and-file often took their lead from their Cheifs and were mighty nervous too. when passed, it included a requirement that DPS collect stats on CHL usage, etc. which i originally didn't like (i seldom like snooping things). turns out that was a boon for CHL holders because DPS themselves came back with quite the story after a few years. not only were CHL holders less likely to be involved in crimes than the general population, they were even less likely than LEOs (as a population). many of the previously vocal Chiefs were equally public in recanting their original opposition.

so that's the background on "tension" issues in TX.

 

[stevec677]

Related or not related, I'm not sure, but here is my question: Why do officers touch the back of a car when they are walking up to talk to a driver?

 

[SoCalFJR1300]

Related or not related, I'm not sure, but here is my question: Why do officers touch the back of a car when they are walking up to talk to a driver?

Never noticed this?

 

[Top_Speed1]

Related or not related, I'm not sure, but here is my question: Why do officers touch the back of a car when they are walking up to talk to a driver?

Leaves "their" fingerprints on your car: if you drive off, they can later prove that your car was the one they pulled over.

 

[hppants]

I would think that the LEO camera would prove the vehicle in question. Perhaps some police units don't have cameras?

Semi-related topic. How many times have you been pulled over by LEO while on the bike, and of those, how many times were you given only a warning?

Pants is batting 1000. Since my return to motorcycling in August 2009, I've been pulled over 4 times - each for speeding around 10-15 over. Not riding like a squid, mind you. Just running a tad too quick for the LEO's liking. Three times by a State trooper, once by a Sherriff Deputy. Each one asked for papers and I complied. In each case, I acknowledged that I was speeding and politely waited for instructions while my clean record was checked. Each time I was asked if I could slow it down, which I replied "yes sir". Each time I was let go without citation.

Recently, I've made a decision to try and slow it down a bit on the bike, but I have to admit it's hard. Especially on a multi-lane highway, I feel safer when I'm running 5-10 mph faster than traffic. Less worry about getting rammed from behind. I've heard that LEO tends to give motorcyclists a little more leeway - any truth to this?

A long time ago, a friend told me she subscribes to the "9 and your fine, 10 and your mine" theory. I think that's good advice.