Local motorcyclist killed
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radman
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And what would the lesson be? Physics? The only conclusion I can draw is that motorcycle=bad.
stellarsteve
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Yea, that's what I got out of it too.
Tenchi
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I also got, "Life is precious" and "bad things happen to good people". But you know, I might just be reading between the lines and all.
Randy
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That's what I got out of it as well. Not reading between the lines....just reading the lines
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Yes, those are the words in print. But when you read between them, the Mother is saying she hopes everyone that knows this guy will realize that he wasted his life and he should never have been riding a motorcycle because it's too dangerous cobnsidering how precious and fragile life is.
See, I think she is very wrong. Life isn't all that precious. Everbody has a life. What's so friggen special about that?
It's the LIVING that is the precious part. What you do with that life. Never taking a risk because it might be dangerous isn't precious. Sitting in a room, safely, waiting to die of old age is not precious at all.
She has no right to judge whether it was worth it to that guy to take that risk. Maybe that was his way of LIVING his life to its fullest?
Personally, if I died tomorrow in a motorcycle accident of some kind, I'd be OK with that. I mean, sure, all things being equal I'd prefer to keep living, but if I had to quit riding to ensure a long life, I really don't think I would be willing to make that sacrifice.
Randy
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Wow....I need to take one of these reading between the lines courses 'cause I'm way off from what some of you are reading into this.
El Toro
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madmike2
Shtirrenuppenmeister
Gunny!
It sounds to me like someone dealing with the unaswerable questions that surround any tragedy.
She did make one salient point about moving objects vs. immovable objects: A helmet may help but will not guarantee your survival. We don't know the circumstances so we really can't or shouldn't assume w know her heart motivations for her response.
In the end she states that she hopes her son (and others) learn from this event. I say, "Amen!" to that. Training, skill, awareness and a bit more throttle control may all have had some bearing on the cause of his demise.
IMHO, we should leave it at that.
OK, except I seriously doubt that was what she meant by that last comment. She really hopes her son stays off those infernal contraptions.
madmike2
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All based on your education and vocation plus your intimate knowledge of the write, or a reaction based on supposition and suspicion?
I know that some of my family members would rather I chose a different avocation than touring on my FJR or riding my KLR. They have also resigned themselves, because of my history of attaching myself to exploits beyond some peoples comfort zone, to the realization that I'm going to do "something" that elevates adrenaline or otherwise enhances my life experiences.
They also know, because we've had THAT conversation, that should I "go" on my motorcycle it will be my choice. I have prepared myself by constantly reading books on riding technique, taking riding courses and classes, and dress in clothing designed to mitigate the effects of a sudden catastrophic ground impact. They wouldn't be "happy" at my demise but I think they would understand that I live my life fully and that motorcycling is a part of that life.
The mother's statements sound more like a resigned acceptance that her son is a rider and that she hopes he learns that it could all end suddenly so he should be prepared for any circumstance. As it is with some of my family (especially my daughter who has hopes for me are that I wouldn't ride) who know it would necessarily change who I am as a person.
Other than that, my ESP seems to be at an all time "low". :huh:
End mah edumacation has bin severally limitid en scope en whut Eye myta learnt frum tyme enta thems classes. Eye owny knows whut Eye bin reedin'.
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JRO
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Well...
It sounds like some of you guys are really preparing to get killed on your motorcycle. You put a lot of work, training, and thought into 'if I go on my motorcycle'.
Sheesh. I just ride one, because it's cheap and it's fun.
It sounds like some of you guys are really preparing to get killed on your motorcycle. You put a lot of work, training, and thought into 'if I go on my motorcycle'.
Sheesh. I just ride one, because it's cheap and it's fun.
madmike2
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Yes, it is relatively inexpensive and waaayyyyy fun! But "cheap"? There are many different motorcycles besides an FJR that I'd consider "cheap fun". There is nothing akin to, when riding one's motorcycle, dancing with the wind and the road to the tune in your head. To me it is therapy and enjoyment wrapped in one package. That part of motorcycling never leaves my conscious thought and motivates me to ride as often as possible.
Returning to the base idea on which this thread began, some of us do all we can to mitigate or prepare possible scenarios. My adult daughter is not always thrilled at my choices of entertainment, recreation or avocation and since I am a survivor of a rather serious crash on my KLR last year, this subject has been part of our father/daughter dialogue matrix. It's not constant but it is a reality we have discussed rather than denying the possibility, considering the miles and distance I put on my bikes.
Funny thing about my family....even though I am riding 3 or 4 states away and I am a physical adult, they still worry. They are the ones who would have to deal with the grief of a sudden loss (as opposed to an extended illness or known physical problem). At my stage of maturity, with an 81 year old mother and a 34 year old daughter (The ex-Mrs.madmike2 doesn't count!), I am surrounded by a loving supportive family who have an interest in my physical ability, mental state, state of preparedness for riding, wearing of protective clothing, etc., to assuage any fears they might have (I also "check-in" nightly with one of them). IMO, a small price to pay for their comfort and peace of mind and my safety.
That I bother to read books on riding techniques and prowess, take riding classes/schools, practice my techniques and situational awareness is not a statement about my planning to die on my motorcycle, rather it is evidence that I plan and desire to be prepared to recognize and avoid any possible situation that could lead to the sudden, catastrophic demise of my person.
Of course, there are those who simply trust luck, fate, God or whatever other forces that might exist in the experience we call human existence while assuming there is nothing they can do to increase their chances or abilities. That's okay, too!
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It sounds like MM2 and I are twin sons of different mothers.
JRO
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I suppose I was unclear. Modified version:
It sounds like some of you guys are really preparing to get killed on your motorcycle. You put a lot of work, training, and thought into 'when I get killed on my motorcycle'.
It sounds like some of you guys are really preparing to get killed on your motorcycle. You put a lot of work, training, and thought into 'when I get killed on my motorcycle'.
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