Locksmith can't get my new ignition apart

[Alex]

So my 07 died while I was turning left in a busy intersection in Anchorage AK. Yep, failed at the worst possible spot. I pushed it out of the way and spliced the large wires together as others owners have.

After returning home, I contacted the dealer and of course they need to see the bike in person to make sure I know what I'm talking about. I took the 90 mile trip to the dealer and they ordered the ignition. Now that is has arrived, the locksmith is saying that he needs to key all the other locks on the bike to the new key. He can't get the new module apart.

Does anyone have some good advice for me? TIA

 

[Wolfhound]

Bummer, I've been using 2 keys but when my second replacement dies and I'm on my third I may have all keyed the same again. I'll be watching this post.

Post up some of the awesome pics you took in Alaska ! (Even with Marshal in them )

 

[Ignacio]

That should a TP and not YP (as in their problem...not your problem). It's a defective part and they should return the bike in the same condition as when you bought it....which is one set of keys.

Insist Yamaha's have the bike rekeyed as part of the repair. If the dealer won't do it or go to bat for you...call Cypress yourself about it.

 

[Alex]

That should a TP and not YP (as in their problem...not your problem). It's a defective part and they should return the bike in the same condition as when you bought it....which is one set of keys.
Insist Yamaha's have the bike re-keyed as part of the repair. If the dealer won't do it or go to bat for you...call Cypress yourself about it.

I've already raised stink and that is why they were trying to get it re-keyed. They want me to take the whole bike to the locksmith. They will be paying for ALL the locks to be changed. I thought there were plenty of guys that have had their ignitions re-keyed successfully. I was wondered if they had any issues with the process.

 

[ionbeam]

I believe the issue is that the security bolts need to be drilled out to get access to the tumblers so the locksmith can rekey the lock. You/they will then need a couple of new bolts to put the ignition switch assembly back together.

 

[Silent]

If you have the rest of the bike re-keyed to the new ignition switch, make sure they use loc-tite on the saddle bag screws

 

[Rondo777]

My dealer gave me crap about it as well, I called Yamaha Customer Service and they contacted the dealer. The dealer ended up rekeying the ignition switch.

 

[El Toro]

I got an extra ignition switch to install in the Heli Clamp, with the intention that the original switch would become my back up switch to be carried along with my spares.

I took the new switch to a local locksmith who keyed it to match my current ignition key for $16, including the tax.

He had to remove a cover and then chase two essentially headless bolts around with a hammer and chisel/punch to get to the cylinder. He then had to switch some internal parts around and do some filing (he said this was because his Yamaha key kit didn't include the right sized replacement parts.

In any event, he did it while I waited... it probably took him 20 minutes.

On the negative side, he did not have screws to replace the ones he'd chased out with the chisel/punch, so he reinstalled them. Man are they ugly. On the positive side, once the cover was put back in place, you can't see the ugly screws, even if you're looking at it from below.

It did not appear to me to be a difficult job for someone who was properly trained.

 

[slapnpop]

****. Take the 3 lock cylinders out of the bags and to them. Run without the bags for a day or two. Doesn't sound like much of an issue to me.

Then you can re-install them yourself so you *KNOW* they are properly lock-tite'd

 

[Alex]

Time for an update.

I took the bike to the locksmith at 7:00AM this morning. I coaxed a friend to follow me (90miles round trip). Dropped the bike off and spoke to the owner about using locktite on the bags when assembling. They see no problems, and will call me when ready to pick up.

4:15 rolls around so I gave them a friendly call to see when it would be available. I was told that it had been done for a few hours now. Apparently they decided it *was* worth it to tear apart the switch housing.

So now I called the Yamaha dealer and asked the service dept if I could possibly just pick the bike up and install the ignition myself. I was told that the dealership service manager would give me a call Monday. Nothing could be done since the service manager had left for the weekend.

Good grief. I should of just waited till December to address the failed switch. :glare:

 

[Alex]

Well I picked up the bike and re-keyed switch today. The locksmith did a fine job! Looks perfect.

However, the service manager at my dealership told me that I would have to wait one more week before they could get to swapping out the switches. They would let me swap it out myself if I brought back the original part. Whatever, lets just get this over with!

How does one reattach the new ignition after drilling out the green rivets that are shown in the below picture?

 

[Silent]

Replace them with standard screws of the proper size. Those "rivets" are security bolts that arn't really needed.

 

[Alex]

Replace them with standard screws of the proper size. Those "rivets" are security bolts that arn't really needed.

Are you refering to the security bolts holding the black housing together, or of the Green, large, round headed ones that hold the ignition to the top tripple tree?

Thanks

 

[Silent]

How does one reattach the new ignition after drilling out the green rivets that are shown in the below picture?

Thought you were refering to the security bolts that hold the switch to the tripple tree.

I'm not sure how you would go about reatatching the black cover other than tapping and using screws, I can't tell if its threaded or not from the photo. Looks to be plenty of meat there to do so if needed. Why didn't the locksmith finnish the job and reatatch that part after he took it off? (I ***-U-Me he took it off and not you)

 

[Alex]

How does one reattach the new ignition after drilling out the green rivets that are shown in the below picture?

Thought you were refering to the security bolts that hold the switch to the tripple tree.

I am...

 

[Silent]

Then I stand by my first answer. Those are threaded fasteners with breakaway heads (the instalation heads break off under a certain torque value leaving the secondary head intact). They are ment as an anti tamper device. Most people drill the heads off and then replace them with standard (metric) bolts. I had mine removed by the dealer when they changed the upper tripple tree. They used standard bolts as a replacement also.

EDIT: Security Bolts The one on the left in the middle of the page is a decent example of what's used by MamaYama

 

[Alex]

Then I stand by my first answer. Those are threaded fasteners with breakaway heads (the instalation heads break off under a certain torque value leaving the secondary head intact). They are ment as an anti tamper device. Most people drill the heads off and then replace them with standard (metric) bolts. I had mine removed by the dealer when they changed the upper tripple tree. They used standard bolts as a replacement also.

EDIT: Security Bolts The one on the left in the middle of the page is a decent example of what's used by MamaYama

Ahhh, thank you very much sir!