Mac to Kanab in 24 (15?)

[BIODSL]

Just and FYI...Hwy 14 from Cedar City to Hwy 89, right toward the end of your ride, will be slow and likely deer infested. Take your time through there. Watch out for sheep on the road as well...DAMHIK!

Got a place to stay in Kanab? The wife and I stayed at Quail Park Lodge on the way home from the IBA National last year. Not inexpensive, but a very nice, locally own motor inn

https://www.quailparklodge.com/

 

[101stpathfinder]

As said before, your fuel should not be an issue. I travel 80mph on rides and plan fuel stops around the 250 mile mark. When your reserve kicks in and you

see your OD start counting backwards, you still have plenty fuel. I usually run it at least 30 miles more. 40 is still comfortable. 55 with 2 up is trouble and 60+

is pushing your luck. I have done -73 without running out, but I would not recommend it. Know your tank before hand by carrying some fuel and keep extending

your miles on reserve until you feel comfortable with the mileage attainable. Consider the variables and be aware of your consumption rate. 300+ miles on a tank IS

possible but not likely at the speeds you want.

All the above is based on Highway travel- The urban fuel consumption is totally different.

 

[MCRIDER007]

Just and FYI...Hwy 14 from Cedar City to Hwy 89, right toward the end of your ride, will be slow and likely deer infested. Take your time through there. Watch out for sheep on the road as well...DAMHIK!

Good point about the deer, an alternate route would be to take the freeway from Cedar City to Hurricane and then take the back way past Colorado City to Kanab.

 

[frankenfeejeer]

JMO but I've never been a big fan of carrying extra fuel in a side bag or on the rack. If you were thinking of maybe a jug or a plastic 2 liter soda bottle, the heat at that time of year, I would think, would make it expand more than I'd be comfortable with. The frequent stops you plan to make, I think spare fuel wouldn't be necessary. Before I got around to making my aux fuel cell, I was tempted a time or two to carry extra fuel in "other" ways, but I just couldn't get comfortable with the idea.
I think the best suggestion yet is extra water. I am looking forward to the "wet sleeves" trick though this year. Just got a stich this winter and I notice it has far fewer vents than the road tested jacket it replaces.

Have a great ride Franken'

Yes! That was a great idea about the water and the sleeves!! Looking forward to that too!!

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Would there be any advantage of taking this route instead? Perhaps the availability of fuel?

That would be the fastest, safest route since most of it is freeway or very straight, wide 2-lane. You are worrying too much about fuel, you should not have any problems at all on the other routes.

Thats a load off!! Thanks!!

Just and FYI...Hwy 14 from Cedar City to Hwy 89, right toward the end of your ride, will be slow and likely deer infested. Take your time through there. Watch out for sheep on the road as well...DAMHIK!
Got a place to stay in Kanab? The wife and I stayed at Quail Park Lodge on the way home from the IBA National last year. Not inexpensive, but a very nice, locally own motor inn

https://www.quailparklodge.com/

Headquarters for the Model T tour is the Shilo Inn. That'll be HFN.

Thanks for the tip though.

 

[frankenfeejeer]

As said before, your fuel should not be an issue. I travel 80mph on rides and plan fuel stops around the 250 mile mark. When your reserve kicks in and yousee your OD start counting backwards, you still have plenty fuel. I usually run it at least 30 miles more. 40 is still comfortable. 55 with 2 up is trouble and 60+

is pushing your luck. I have done -73 without running out, but I would not recommend it. Know your tank before hand by carrying some fuel and keep extending

your miles on reserve until you feel comfortable with the mileage attainable. Consider the variables and be aware of your consumption rate. 300+ miles on a tank IS

possible but not likely at the speeds you want.

All the above is based on Highway travel- The urban fuel consumption is totally different.

That is great news. I had been wondering about the reserve. I tend to get a bit nervous at 25 miles into the reserve, then notice that I only take 5.5 gallons of fuel! If the capacity is really 6.8 gallons, that adds up to another 40 miles or so.

I suppose living on the edge is something to work up to!!

 

[jwhite518]

Cooler = Water jug. A barrel-shaped insulated plastic thingy. I use the Aerostitch panniers with a 1 gal Coleman jug. The Garauld setup fits a smaller jug. Exact same functionality - ice water that stays cold hours after you filled it on a hot summer day, piped to your mouth via a Camelback drink tube and bite valve. Whatever capacity and mounting method you choose, it's the best setup!!

I like the first route, for the opposite reasons stated above. Smaller, less traveled roads. F the interstate, you can do this SS1K on the original roads. It's Nevada, baby!

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Cooler = Water jug. A barrel-shaped insulated plastic thingy. I use the Aerostitch panniers with a 1 gal Coleman jug. The Garauld setup fits a smaller jug. Exact same functionality - ice water that stays cold hours after you filled it on a hot summer day, piped to your mouth via a Camelback drink tube and bite valve. Whatever capacity and mounting method you choose, it's the best setup!!
I like the first route, for the opposite reasons stated above. Smaller, less traveled roads. F the interstate, you can do this SS1K on the original roads. It's Nevada, baby!

"A barrel-shaped plastic thingy"... check!

I would really prefer to stay off of the interstate. Those 2 lane roads are really more my style. Leave the 4 laners to the folks missing out on the 2 wheeled experience.

Thanks again!

 

[Panman]

I would like to try one of these Geigerrig pressurized hydration packs.

https://www.geigerrig.com/index.html

I think it would be nice to use not only to use for drinking but when its hot spray the water on you Mesh gear while moving.

 

[RiderX]

Garauld makes a half gallon and one gallon foot peg mount. I have purchased both. He also made me a 2 gallon custom mount that sits atop my aux cell (Bev Hillbillies style).

The one gallon setup works very well if you are using water to wet gear as Jerry mentions. I use tank panniers in the same area for tools, compressor and other heavier gear. The ones made by Wolfman are slightly smaller than the aerostich and fit nicely between the peg mount cooler and frame. But they won't hold a 1 gallon jug.

 

[jwhite518]

I didn't know Garauld made a 1 gal version. Nice!

 

[huron52]

. He also made me a 2 gallon custom mount that sits atop my aux cell (Bev Hillbillies style).
Got any pictures of that?

 

[RiderX]

Yeah if you go to the Garauld refreshment system thread in Group Buys. You can see pictures of half and one gallon systems (and some alternative mounting ideas). My Feejabago is/was the last post, #44. I rally with the 2 gallon as well as the half gallon with electrolytes. I usually go all day without worrying about liquids when on the clock.

 

[Spud]

Don't get TOO comfortable about the gas situation in Nevada. I've had two major pucker incidents in that state where I thought for sure it was hitchhiking time, just because I passed a little gas station thinking--"nah--I'll hit the next one up the road." Once you have your route planned, I'd do some research to make sure where gas is CURRENTLY available.

For example, with 15 miles on my reserve and ticking up, I pulled into Oasis, NV has a great big gas station--that is completely shut down. The 32 miles to Wendover were spent in full tuck at 55 mph, trying to draft trucks on I-80. Not fun.... As it turns out I still had plenty to get me there, but at the end of a long day, alone in the middle of nowhere, that flashing gas gauge really amps up the stress factor.

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Don't get TOO comfortable about the gas situation in Nevada. I've had two major pucker incidents in that state where I thought for sure it was hitchhiking time, just because I passed a little gas station thinking--"nah--I'll hit the next one up the road." Once you have your route planned, I'd do some research to make sure where gas is CURRENTLY available.
For example, with 15 miles on my reserve and ticking up, I pulled into Oasis, NV has a great big gas station--that is completely shut down. The 32 miles to Wendover were spent in full tuck at 55 mph, trying to draft trucks on I-80. Not fun.... As it turns out I still had plenty to get me there, but at the end of a long day, alone in the middle of nowhere, that flashing gas gauge really amps up the stress factor.

I bet it does!!

That is something I definitely want to avoid!!

 

[Jack D]

Modena to Kanab 133 miles 2:00

Modena to Cedar City 65 mph, it's the limit and it's enforced

Cedar City to Kanab 65 mph, no way, it's twisty and scenic and has traffic.

Take MCRIDER007's advice and get on I15 south at Cedar City to Hurricane to Fredonia and then Kanab.

But if time is not a factor go straight through Cedar City and ride the mountains. It is beautiful.

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Modena to Kanab 133 miles 2:00

Modena to Cedar City 65 mph, it's the limit and it's enforced

Cedar City to Kanab 65 mph, no way, it's twisty and scenic and has traffic.

Take MCRIDER007's advice and get on I15 south at Cedar City to Hurricane to Fredonia and then Kanab.

But if time is not a factor go straight through Cedar City and ride the mountains. It is beautiful.

Good advice. Especially considering that the twistiest part of the ride will be happening about hour 14 or 15. Deer, Traffic, and enforced speed limits don't seem like a good combination towards the end of this ride.

I will definitely head home that way though!!

Thanks again!

Still trying to get some feedback on discrepancies between Google Maps Miles and actual FeeJeer miles.

Perhaps a new topic is required for this inquiry.......

 

[RiderX]

Trying to figure out exactly what you're asking with regard to Google Miles versus FJR miles. Are you getting a IBA cert with your 1000 miles? Or is this related to the gas question cause you know how far you get (in FJR miles) per tank? If memory serves, my Gen II is generous with respect to miles by the tune of 2.5%. Google Maps, MapSource, MS S&T, mapquest, Delorme, Basecamp and many GPSs, are a fine source for actual mileage. There will be some minor discrepancies but they are the best we have (That's why it's not a bad idea to ride 5% more for cert rides).

So I think the answer to your questions is a 2.5 - 3% difference between an accurate mileage source and your FJR odometer. Various free smartphone apps will also give you accurate mileage (Waze, Garmin, Google) although I don't have a lot of experience with those.

Could always do a known course and see what your factor is with a given tire, etc.

Have a great ride!

 

[frankenfeejeer]

Trying to figure out exactly what you're asking with regard to Google Miles versus FJR miles. Are you getting a IBA cert with your 1000 miles? Or is this related to the gas question cause you know how far you get (in FJR miles) per tank? If memory serves, my Gen II is generous with respect to miles by the tune of 2.5%. Google Maps, MapSource, MS S&T, mapquest, Delorme, Basecamp and many GPSs, are a fine source for actual mileage. There will be some minor discrepancies but they are the best we have (That's why it's not a bad idea to ride 5% more for cert rides).
So I think the answer to your questions is a 2.5 - 3% difference between an accurate mileage source and your FJR odometer. Various free smartphone apps will also give you accurate mileage (Waze, Garmin, Google) although I don't have a lot of experience with those.

Could always do a known course and see what your factor is with a given tire, etc.

Have a great ride!

I think you have answered both questions I had regarding miles. While I'm not too concerned with the 1k for the BB challenge with over 1100 miles on the route im looking at, I am concerned about 1 or 2 of the planned distances between fuel stops.

If I have a plan of 250, and there is a discrepancy of 2-3%, that could/will change my fuel stop planning.

Thanks for the great info. I hope to have a great ride!!

 

[russperry]

You can reliably haul ass in Nevada outside of populated areas, at the expense of fuel economy. Unless you have aux fuel, and depending on your definition of ass hauling, it could be a tradeoff in time - any time gained by speeding is lost by additional fuel stops.

I feel I can safely and comfortably cruise is the 80-90 range. I have been considering taking a 1 gallon fuel can in a side bag for any emergency situation that may arise. It seems pretty easy to calculate distances between fuel stops, just not sure...

Out in Nevada you can never be too sure about fuel stops. Last summer me and Brodie were getting concerned about gas when a few "towns" on the AAA maps turned out to be nothing more than abandoned bars, and then had a couple of roads washed out by mud slides from overnight rain. Having some backup fuel on board is not a bad idea if you're planning on much time out in wide open parts...