Maybe Two-Strokes Won't Die After All

[Spud]

Electric Start, "Dual Ignition Switch", Adjustable Exhaust Port, for on-the-fly tuning. Man do these look like sweet enduro bikes! Those guys are damned good riders too... B)

 

[C&C]

The 'kiss of death' is the blue smoke out the back. Two strokes were always superior (powerwise IMO) but the 'greenies' killed them. P.C. struck however many years ago the four stroke invasion took place; that's my take on it anyway. Same thing happened to the outboard motor industry.

 

[FJRBluesman]

The 'kiss of death' is the blue smoke out the back. Two strokes were always superior (powerwise IMO) but the 'greenies' killed them. P.C. struck however many years ago the four stroke invasion took place; that's my take on it anyway. Same thing happened to the outboard motor industry.

+1 Gunny.
Motorcycles, outboard motors, jet-skis, snow mobiles, next are garden leaf blowers and chain saws. :dribble:

Thread hijack - Who's musical quote is this? Name the song and band.

"LA didn't go for the chain saw!"

 

[Peter Murray]

Ahh Just get the no smoke chainsaw oil ,, Just for the Greenies !!

 

[zenwhipper]

What the heck is the Dual Ignition Switch? Two switches? DPDT?

Or is it the electric start + a kick start?

If it tis the latter - them Swedes have a funny way if naming techno-logic functionality. :fool:

 

[Spud]

What the heck is the Dual Ignition Switch? Two switches? DPDT?
Or is it the electric start + a kick start?

If it tis the latter - them Swedes have a funny way if naming techno-logic functionality. :fool:

I was thinking it's a way of electronically controlling the timing or something to change the power characteristics of the motor.

And the greenies traded a little smoke for a whole hell of a lot of obnoxious noise. In the back-country, you can hear those four strokes for miles up a canyon. They'll next go after that and the new electric bikes will be all that's left to trail ride.

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

And the greenies traded a little smoke for a whole hell of a lot of obnoxious noise. In the back-country, you can hear those four strokes for miles up a canyon.

Not if they leave the stock (legal) exhaust un-molested... :angry:

Of course, they can't -- and they buy one of the aftermarket's (illegal) 'Big-Gun', Muzzy, 'etc.', super-loud noise makers... WHY?

 

[Geezer]

Two stroke technology has come a long way from what you get in your average chain saw. Direct fuel and oil injection helps keep the polutants to a minimum and raises fuel economy because fuel is not injected while the exhaust port is open. You still have to keep the oil reservoir topped off, but there is no mixing of oil and gas. This is fairly common in outboard motors today. I haven't found the technical details of the Husabergs, but the fact that the new 2-strokes have an extra large fuel tank implies poor fuel economy so they probably do not take advantage of the new technology.

 

[oldryder]

if you follow snowmobiles you'll know that Skidoo's direct injection technology compares favorably with 4 strokes on both emissions and fuel economy. I doubt the tree huggers would ever allow the return of 2 stroke street bikes as facts aren't particularly important to them and 2 strokes have such a horrible image even tho the new ones don't smoke at all.

 

[fjrchooser]

What the heck is the Dual Ignition Switch? Two switches? DPDT?
Or is it the electric start + a kick start?

If it tis the latter - them Swedes have a funny way if naming techno-logic functionality. :fool:

I was thinking it's a way of electronically controlling the timing or something to change the power characteristics of the motor.

And the greenies traded a little smoke for a whole hell of a lot of obnoxious noise. In the back-country, you can hear those four strokes for miles up a canyon. They'll next go after that and the new electric bikes will be all that's left to trail ride.

The dual ignition switch is an actual switch for changing between 2 ignition maps. KTM has the same thing on some models. Husaberg and KTM have a symbiotic relationship, sharing many parts and technologies.

I'd love to see 2 strokes meet emission regs, the rebuild cost of a KTM 4 stroke single is outrageous by comparison.

If you include the upstream manufacturing costs of all the additional parts a 4 stroke requires over a 2, are they all that much greener ?