I went down in shim size one at a time, and then checked the " backlash" and then rode it to hear the result. As I would go down in the size of shim of course the slop would be diminished in the gear set, and the backlash felt at the output shaft was of course be less as well. On my bike with 80,000 + miles ending up at .15 shims reduced the noise, and I still had backlash in the output shaft-- but I stopped there. Would I go any tighter without actually measuring, probably not. But after a lot of miles those gears will be worn to a point where adjustment could be made if wanted.