Might be getting back into the FJR Saddle...need help

[ShawnKing]

Hey folks. I've been a member for a while but not participating because I haven't had an FJR in a long while. That might change VERY quickly but I need some advice.

I might have an opportunity to buy a (gently used) FJR in the next few weeks. But I'm also moving back home to Canada in the same time period. Does anyone know what the "rules" are regarding buying a used bike in the US and then bringing it to Canada? Duties? Taxes? GST? What about the Yamaha Warranty? Is it transferable to Canada?

I found a FJR here in the US that is $2K cheaper than any comparable FJR I could find in Canada so, if the duties and taxes can be minimized, I'd like to jump at the opportunity.

Thanks for any advice on any aspect of this you can offer.

 

[rickysnickers]

I can't really answer your question, but I have a question. Why if the bike is registered in your name here in the States would you need to pay dues or anything else in Canada? This is assuming you bought it prior to the move. It would seem to me that you would just register it there per their DMV rules. Not trying to be a smart@#$$ but just asking a legit question.

Rick

 

[fjrob1300]

Shawn, welcome back.

I brought a bike back from Florida back in 05. I had to pay GST at the border and then PST at the time of licensing. Check with the Canadian Border for the proper rules.

Rob

 

[FJRBluesman]

Shawn - Great to see you back in the old stomping grounds! Welcome you future Canucklehead.

So what year is it? A superior GenI?

It'll be good to see you posting again.

 

[ShawnKing]

Why if the bike is registered in your name here in the States would you need to pay dues or anything else in Canada? This is assuming you bought it prior to the move. It would seem to me that you would just register it there per their DMV rules. Not trying to be a smart@#$$ but just asking a legit question.

Every place has different rules and regulations with regards to bringing products into a country. In Canada, you'd have to (most likely) pay duties, fees, taxes, GST, PST, etc. If it's economically feasible, that would be the plan. Not smart assed at all, IMO.

Shawn, welcome back.
I brought a bike back from Florida back in 05. I had to pay GST at the border and then PST at the time of licensing. Check with the Canadian Border for the proper rules.

Rob, what was the GST %?

And the problem with checking with Customs is I get different answers to any number of questions every time I call.

 

[ShawnKing]

Shawn - Great to see you back in the old stomping grounds! Welcome you future Canucklehead.

To be fair, I never stopped being a Canucklehead even as I lived in the States.

So what year is it? A superior GenI?

As much as I bow to your knowledge of the superiorness of the Gen I's, I have to find something that is at least under warranty. I'm mechanically incompetent and honestly incapable of doing any of my own wrenching.

It'll be good to see you posting again.

Well, first of all, it will be good to be on a bike again. Secondly, great to be back on a FJR again. Being able to post relevantly again will be a happy bonus.

 

[fjrob1300]

Shawn I think the GST was 5% but now here in Ontario we have the HST at 13%. I don't remember paying anything else on top of that.

Rob

 

[RadioHowie]

Shawn - Great to see you back in the old stomping grounds! Welcome you future Canucklehead.

To be fair, I never stopped being a Canucklehead even as I lived in the States.

So what year is it? A superior GenI?

As much as I bow to your knowledge of the superiorness of the Gen I's, I have to find something that is at least under warranty. I'm mechanically incompetent and honestly incapable of doing any of my own wrenching.

It'll be good to see you posting again.

Being able to post relevantly again will be a happy bonus.

If not a happy bonus, at least it'll be a first!!!

 

[ShawnKing]

Being able to post relevantly again will be a happy bonus.

If not a happy bonus, at least it'll be a first!!!

Oh, how I've missed the good natured ball busting around here...

 

[ice_station_zebra]

Hey folks. I've been a member for a while but not participating because I haven't had an FJR in a long while. That might change VERY quickly but I need some advice.
I might have an opportunity to buy a (gently used) FJR in the next few weeks. But I'm also moving back home to Canada in the same time period. Does anyone know what the "rules" are regarding buying a used bike in the US and then bringing it to Canada? Duties? Taxes? GST? What about the Yamaha Warranty? Is it transferable to Canada?

I found a FJR here in the US that is $2K cheaper than any comparable FJR I could find in Canada so, if the duties and taxes can be minimized, I'd like to jump at the opportunity.

Thanks for any advice on any aspect of this you can offer.

Here's the numbers / websites you'll need

Registrar of Imported Vehicles

1-888-848-8240

www.riv.ca

[email protected]

Canada Border Service Agency

1-800-461-9999 (English)

1-800-959-2036 (French)

www.cbsa.gc.ca

Transport Canada

1-800-333-0371

(613) 998-4831 (fax)

www.tc.gc.ca

United States Customs

www.customs.gov

 

[escapefjrtist]

Welcome back Shawn...too bad you've leaving the PNW!

One of the northern contingent can chime in, but IIRC warranty on a US model bike isn't honored across the border.

--G

 

[kamal]

Maybe Barb can help you? Didn't she import one of those 'assembled in the US bikes' last year?

My '04 was imported from Portland, OR by a guy in Victoria, BC. I have all the bike's documents, warranty work was carried out by the dealer in Victoria.

 

[Road_Runner]

So are you guys saying that if the bike were registered in his name in the States while he were living in the states, then he moves to Canada he would have to pay tax? Seems to me that would be the way to go to aviod tax maybe.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Good to see ya back here King...

Too bad about the Kanadian thing though. :****:

 

[ShawnKing]

Hey folks. I've been a member for a while but not participating because I haven't had an FJR in a long while. That might change VERY quickly but I need some advice.
I might have an opportunity to buy a (gently used) FJR in the next few weeks. But I'm also moving back home to Canada in the same time period. Does anyone know what the "rules" are regarding buying a used bike in the US and then bringing it to Canada? Duties? Taxes? GST? What about the Yamaha Warranty? Is it transferable to Canada?

I found a FJR here in the US that is $2K cheaper than any comparable FJR I could find in Canada so, if the duties and taxes can be minimized, I'd like to jump at the opportunity.

Thanks for any advice on any aspect of this you can offer.

Here's the numbers / websites you'll need

Registrar of Imported Vehicles

Thanks very much.

 

[ShawnKing]

Welcome back Shawn...too bad you've leaving the PNW!

Much appreciated. I never did "fit in" here in Portland though.

One of the northern contingent can chime in, but IIRC warranty on a US model bike isn't honored across the border.

That's going to SUCK and might be a deal breaker for buying a less expensive bike here in the US.

 

[Bungie]

ice_station_zebra hooked you up with riv.ca. Everything you need to know and do is there.

 

[ShawnKing]

Good to see ya back here King...
Too bad about the Kanadian thing though.https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/****.gif

LOL I never stopped be a Kanadian (born and raised in Halifax, NS). I'll just stop being a transplanted one.

I have all the bike's documents, warranty work was carried out by the dealer in Victoria.

Interesting. And illustrative of the issue - I get conflicting info even from knowledgeable sources.

 

[ShawnKing]

ice_station_zebra hooked you up with riv.ca. Everything you need to know and do is there.

True to a point. The restrictions and allowances are *insanely* complicated. One site says, "You must pay duty and taxes at full price" another says, "You only have to pay duty and taxes over $10K" and yet a third says, "personal vehicles are exempt"...that last two come FROM THE SAME WEB PAGE...

"Settlers and Former Residents can include the following personal and household effects in their duty- and tax-free entitlement...."personal vehicles"..

Later on down the page:

"If you are a former resident of Canada, any single personal or household item (including an automobile) that is worth more than CAN$10,000 on the date you import it is subject to applicable duty and taxes on the amount that is over CAN$10,000."

So confused/confusing.