Moto-cops or medics

[evilmedic13]

Okay, this subject comes up every so often, but is usually seen as undoable. While I've been laying around I've had time to talk to a few people about this for my dept as far as medics go. The few I have contacted seem very enthusiatic about it's reception by higher ups.

What I need help w/ is what kind of bikes and who can I contact to get info as far as cost/maintanence([SIZE=8pt]sp?[/SIZE]) is concerned. I know ideas are nice, but #'s will help immeasurably, especially w/ budgets the way they are in todays economies. This is something that I've thought about in the past, but circumstances and COC were in the way. The time for this seems to be now and I would like to pursue this to the fullest of my abilities. That's why I need to contact the groups already doing this. The more info I have the more convincing my proposal and argument for can be(I hate using argument in there).

Thanks for any help. I'll be running around to Honda,BMW, and HD for the info they have. HD has to be included for fairness,sorry. Any manufacturer's I left out feel free to enlighten me!

 

[evil_henchman]

What I need help w/ is what kind of bikes and who can I contact to get info as far as cost/maintanence([SIZE=8pt]sp?[/SIZE]) is concerned. I know ideas are nice, but #'s will help immeasurably, especially w/ budgets the way they are in todays economies.

Might help if we knew exactly what you want to do with those bikes...Medics on bikes?

 

[Old Michael]

I've read this a couple of times, and I still can't figure out what you're talking about. :huh:

 

[Bustanut joker]

Guys,.. Spark up a fat one.... The answer will come.

:jester:

 

[cougar8000]

Ed, First off put that pipe down and start speaking clearly. Does your wife know what you do while she is at work :yahoo:

If you are talking about running a bike for the medic department, I suggest you find someone in the Miami area since their fire/medic squad been using bikes for the last few years and will have a good info for you. I haven't heard of any other fire/medic department in the states doing it.

If I am not mistaken they might be running BMW's.

Good luck.

 

[sonicspeed]

i saw an article not too long ago, i think they do this in japan

 

[evilmedic13]

Aww christ, first I double post and now I'm sounding like an *****, moreso than normal.

Sorry guys.

Yes it is for a moto-medic program. I left it vague because most police bikes should have the same basic package as far as lights,sirens, and radios. That's my biggest conern as afar as initial concept goes. Most of the equipment a medic carries can fit into most luggage because there is no transport need. Backboards are the only obstacle as far as treatment on scene I can think of. Plus, I really don't want to do a "they have it why can't we?" job as far as explaining or answeing questions.

I've been busy writing this and co-ordinating a family thing tomorrow for the 20 th ann of my mom's death, and nothing is going the way it should. If my job didn't have randoms, that pipe would be a big help. Maybe I should've posted at a later date when my head and train of thought aren't so easily derailed.

I'm gonna go crawl in a hole now, it's been a long day/year and this is a prime example of how I keep screwing stuff up somehow. Thanks for being gentle guys. :blink:

 

[Jagermeister]

Are you trying to develop an RFP?

 

[evilmedic13]

Yes, I just suck at words today. Any experience w/ this area?

Actually I need to send this up the chain before I can go further. I mainly just need to show them advantages and options for such a program. If they approve I guess an RFP would be next.

 

[Bustanut joker]

I'll send ya a bill fer the two fatties I smoked trying to interpret yer post.

Feel better now??? :lol:

:jester:

 

[evilmedic13]

Small fatties or real fatties?

 

[Old Michael]

I'll send ya a bill fer the two fatties I smoked trying to interpret yer post.
Feel better now??? :lol:

:jester:

Small fatties or real fatties?

It'll be a minute evil. He's in the kitchen eating a box of croutons. Probably gonna bill you for those as well.. :lol:

 

[evilmedic13]

I'll send ya a bill fer the two fatties I smoked trying to interpret yer post.
Feel better now??? :lol:

:jester:

Small fatties or real fatties?

It'll be a minute evil. He's in the kitchen eating a box of croutons. Probably gonna bill you for those as well.. :lol:

Croutons? Cheap ***, I always favored big-*** burrito's.

 

[pickax]

Ed

Daytona Beach FD has been operating a highly succesful motor medic squad since "95. We use police bikes (currently roadkings)

and are trained to police national motor standards. We use the bikes during heavy traffic events and take a huge load off the engines and rescue squads. Between two bikes we are full ALS, and stabilize until transport arrives.

Don't reinvent this wheel,cultivate contacts in the PD motor squad for training and inclusion on lease/purchase on whatever bikes they are using.

Too many details to mention here, but I've been in since the beginning and would like to help you develop this. Will PM my number.

 

[evilmedic13]

EdDaytona Beach FD has been operating a highly succesful motor medic squad since "95. We use police bikes (currently roadkings)

and are trained to police national motor standards. We use the bikes during heavy traffic events and take a huge load off the engines and rescue squads. Between two bikes we are full ALS, and stabilize until transport arrives.

Don't reinvent this wheel,cultivate contacts in the PD motor squad for training and inclusion on lease/purchase on whatever bikes they are using.

Too many details to mention here, but I've been in since the beginning and would like to help you develop this. Will PM my number.

That sounds great. I can use all the help and ideas I can. I'll start talking to PD after NYD and see who I can speak w/ on that matter.

Thank you, you have no idea how much that one idea just helped. The arrow is starting to point N on the compass of help.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Sorry for the delay... I was in the bathroom eating the last half of the turkey and half a pound of beef medalions

Big fattys!!!!

Two days of family; eighteen nieces and nephews (all in varying stages of the teen years) , two sisters and three brothers in one house, well..... ya do what ya do to survive

:jester:

 

[Jagermeister]

Depending on state and local public bidding laws, the RFP can be brand-generic, or brand-specific. Usually, if your department narrows it down to one brand, you'll need to post the quantified reasons for that choice, then open up the bidding to multiple dealers.

Seattle did that with HD's : Seattle Police Bike RFP

Any RFP you can find is public domain info, so copy n' pasting is a common and easy way to get the verbiage you need. Then, your purchasing department will probably put an attorney's eyes on it, to ensure it meets local bidding laws.

There is a lot of justification for EMS Bikes: low cost, faster response time (especially in traffic). Selling it up the food chain shouldn't be too hard, from an ROI standpoint.

 

[evilmedic13]

Hopefully.

The only problem I have is that as far as the Dept is concerned is that I'm near the bottom of the food chain here. The only plusses I have on my side is reputation for honesty and no games or disciplinary actions in 7 years. Plus a few awards and letters of commendation, but most of that is a dime a dozen to me. Unfortunately,all the lay-ups I've had this year may be frowned upon and seen as less than desirable. :glare: At least they're legitimate and backed up w/ xrays and hoospital reports, not phantom back pain. h34r:

 

[Thug]

Oz has had Motorbike Paramedics for years....see QLD, NSW & Vic.... They are normally what the Police have mainly Honda's and BMW's but are now trialling FJR's....Set up is cheap when you consider it costs around $180,00.00 for an AMBULANCE VEHICLE compared to 5 or six bikes? great in peek hour and get into buildings, elevators etc...Basically done up like police bikes and do the same training road craft wise. All you need is a holder for the O2 and Defib, some storage for meds and bits and pieces and your away. Of course your two-way as well.

Your just a primary response with no transport so you don't need a lot of gear.....

Good luck and as for the price? all depends who will come to the party? Supply bike and servicing over so many K's and then up date...