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PapaUtah

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I know Radman is a closeted restorer. Are there any other VJMR’s (Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Restorers) here on the forum? My father (age 72) and I have purchased 2 (two) 1983 Honda CB1000 Customs and are busily about our restoration of a daily driver for him.

The keeper is a 26K mile example with Hondaline luggage (all three pieces in very good condition.) The donor is a 60K bike that is providing a Hondaline Fairing and lowers, a few chrome bits, engine covers, mint condition plastic parts, etc.

I am removing the rims from the keeper and bringing home under the guise of “cleaning them up”. They are going to be cleaned up and fitted with a new set F11 and K627 Qualifiers as it would have come from the factory. The old man says the tires are good enough for him….but they aren’t good enough for me! Once we get the fairing off I may have that repainted too, unbeknownst to him. Finding the original Hondaline colors may be a chore.

The air shocks are in good condition, exhaust pipes on both bikes are in excellent condition. They tend to be the most problematic areas on these bikes I have found out. The fairing has a CycleSound housing in it. I have found a couple of NOS Hondaline speakers, just need to find a Hondaline stero for it. Hoping an older Goldwing unit will work.

We have plenty of work to do, rebuilding calipers, new brakes, refinishing rotors, flushing brake lines, lubing cables, greasing suspension points, fork oil change, general cleanup, polishing and buffing, plugs, wires, tuneup, etc. Basically disassembling the entire bike and then reassembling it with clean, repaired or replaced components. We have a May 1 target date for completion. Dad would like to make its first public exhibition at First Thursday as there a usually a number of vintage Pac Rim bikes there with their owners. We hope to be able to sell the donor bike at the end as it will be a complete running bike, just that all of the best components cosmetically will be on Dad’s keeper.

So far I have found the original sales literature, parts fiche, factory service manual, original tool kit with the plastic tire pressure gauge that rarely lasted a month before it fell apart. Dad would like the Hondaline adjustable backrest, so I am on the internet quest to locate a mint or NOS part. That becomes part of the fun of the project.

 
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well, if ya need any tips on how NOT to do things, you know where I am. And, by the way, as I found the market for restored closets was smaller than I expected, I decided to do old Zooks, with a smaller market still...sighhhhhhhhhh

 
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Damn. So, I guess getting a little help on my old closet is a no-go, then?

 
I've been thinking very, very seriously about purchasing a '79 or '80 SR500 as a project bike. That bike remains one of my all-time favorites for whole variety of reasons. It's not a question of desire, it's now only a question of time...

 
Damn. So, I guess getting a little help on my old closet is a no-go, then?
I thought you "came out"? :rolleyes:
The only restoration I've done was and old Triumph many years ago... out of necessity.

 
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Damn. So, I guess getting a little help on my old closet is a no-go, then?
Page odot. He'll arrive in his PT Cruither and help you with all your closet needs - especially with high heeled strapless pump racks. ;)
TWN you'd better not be getting jealous (your lusting over a PT Cruiser that is :grin: )

As for Japanese bike restoration I've done a few but getting parts for the early stuff (60's) can be almost impossible @ times cause unlike North American or European bikes, 7 years & the Japanese tend to discontinue the parts if not sooner :sadsmiley: .....

 
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It can be a major pain to find the pieces, for sure. But the results are surely worth it. For example...........

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Now, tell me that ain't gorgeous!

 
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That is sweet. Now, this ain't the one you're working on is it? Surely you didn't finish that fast.

 
My only caution is that unless this is strictly a labor of love, watch the costs and improvise where you can with serviceable cheap spares rather than buying NOS parts. Honda is pretty good about stocking old parts, but they're expensive and you're not restoring anything that will have much value beyond being an nice, old, rideable bike (which have a rough used price guideline of about $1/cc). Having a donor bike is a good strategy. And removing, cleaning, polishing, lubing, and re-installing cost nothing. My problem is that as soon as I have something apart, I can't stand to put it back together without repainting/replating, replacing any rubber/cables, etc. It's a slipperly slope.

I put $4500 into a $1500 CB750K1 and got a great bike, but it has taken 10-years for it to emerge being underwater in value vs. what I have in it. And this is a bike with some collector following.

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- Mark

 
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That is sweet. Now, this ain't the one you're working on is it? Surely you didn't finish that fast.

Nope-later version of the T20 I'm doing. And I agree with mj on a couple points-do for joy, not money, cuz the resale isn't there but on a very few models, that CB (sweet looker by the way) being one of them. Nice examples of my T20 do go for 5G or so, but thats not why I do it. It's for the looks I get from some 12 year old in the car next to me, thinking out loud "hey, I could ride that!", thereby passing on the tradition maybe. :p Oh, and that 4 into 4 is worth more than a lot of bikes on the market.......... ;)

 
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Great looking bikes!

I picked up a 1964 Honda C200 ( for free) which I was going to restore, but the frame and swingarm have some major damage. I pulled the engine and am currently reworking it; I'll put it on my mantle above the fireplace when i'm done:)

I'd like to pick up a 1984 Kawasaki GPZ 900 at some point and restore it. I had an 84 and sold it with 147,000 mile on the clock in 1990. What I got for it doesn't seem like much now......

 
We are not going for the showroom new look on this one. Rather we are trying for the low mile, original, unmolested, in fantastic shape appearance. We are moving the bits that in in the best shape to one bike, the other gets the hand me downs. I will get some pics posted up of the before. In April, the after!

 
You just can't beat fixing up an old bike for good times. Pick one up cheap, spend way too much money on it ,way too much time, and way too much aggravation when things don't go right. And the best part is getting to do it with your son or dad. My 17 year old and i have done 2 old Kawasakis. One 1980 KZ1300 and a 1977 KZ 650. I always was kinda partial to the old KZs. Someday i'll find one of those 1982 KZ 1000r Eddie Lawson Replicas and drop about 10 grand on it. You can check out VJMC.ORG for some good info and meets in your area.

 
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My only caution is that unless this is strictly a labor of love, watch the costs and improvise where you can with serviceable cheap spares rather than buying NOS parts. Honda is pretty good about stocking old parts, but they're expensive and you're not restoring anything that will have much value beyond being an nice, old, rideable bike (which have a rough used price guideline of about $1/cc). Having a donor bike is a good strategy. And removing, cleaning, polishing, lubing, and re-installing cost nothing. My problem is that as soon as I have something apart, I can't stand to put it back together without repainting/replating, replacing any rubber/cables, etc. It's a slipperly slope.
I put $4500 into a $1500 CB750K1 and got a great bike, but it has taken 10-years for it to emerge being underwater in value vs. what I have in it. And this is a bike with some collector following.

CB750K1.jpg


- Mark
How much for the cb750?

 
Dad is 72, retired, still pretty spry and has a lot of time of his hands. This project will give him plenty to do. He is definitely not going to be spending big bucks on it. I am projecting his out of pocket to be in the $2K range. His son (me) will be adding a few extras that he didn’t plan on. I owe him for a few years of tutelage. The donor bike is going to provide us with alot of parts as well as still being saleable when we are done. There are a few groups of Honda 10 Speed fanatics out there and they are always looking for parts and bikes. The CB1000 is definitely the Holy Grail of the 10 Speed Hondas.

The other benefit is I get to spend a few weekends working on something mechanical with my dad, almost like firing up the time machine and going back to my youth. I picked up my mechanical skills with him rebuilding small block Chevys and big block Mopars. We built a 32 Ford pickup street rod when I was in high school. We built a log splitter/saw out of a 65 Chev pickup truck that you could drive back right into the woods. My first project with my dad was a sidecar that we built and installed on my bicycle when I was in elementary school. This is going to be fun!

 
Well, you're pretty lucky in that respect. The only thing my 'ol man ever helped me with was *** calluses with #2, cig burns with #1. ;)

 
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