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Can someone help me out? My son will be moving to Calif.

with two TW 200's (dual sports) with less than the 7000 miles on them.

What will he have to do to get the licensed in Calif.. He now lives in Arizona.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Joe

 
Can someone help me out? My son will be moving to Calif.with two TW 200's (dual sports) with less than the 7000 miles on them.

What will he have to do to get the licensed in Calif.. He now lives in Arizona.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Joe
He'll need to have 7500 miles on each before he can register them easily in Calif, since it is considered a new vehicle requiring Calif. smog certification if it has less than 7500 miles.

I believe Health and Safety Code section 431519(c ) says that if he had an EPA certificate of conformity (i.e., it was a legitimate 49 states model) AND he can prove that he was a resident of the state into which it was imported at the time he bought it, then he is also clear, BUT I would NOT want to have to try to explain that to the most officious DMV personnel in the country (Calif). Just get the 7500 miles BEFORE he brings either into the DMV -- I've been told that once they know you have less than 7500 when you come in, coming back later with 7500 miles will not work.

Links:

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr29.htm

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/howto/htvr9.htm

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/appndxa/hlthsaf/hs43151.htm

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/checklists/outofstate.htm

Coincidentally, I am having to do all this this week, and am about to throw up at the hoops I have to jump through. I suspect this will take me at least a couple days with 2 bikes (both with 7500+ miles) and 1 car (well over the limit, but bought, titled and previously registered in Calif).

 
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+1 on the 7500 limit (don't try and get around it) just put on the extra 500 miles before you go down.

A DMV agent will have to verify each bike, VIN, mileage, etc...

One other thing they do in CA is require the engine# for a motorcycle in addition to the VIN.

Many people outside of CA have no idea where to find the engine # on a bike.

Better to find it before hand

 
If you are moving to the SF bay area, especially the East Bay Let me suggest the Dublin Office on West Las Positas, Dublin CA. I have much experience with CA DMV offices and this one is far far superior to any other I have ever been to. Be there at 8:00 in the A.M. Explain your issues to the help desk, have your paperwork in order and they will do what they can to move you along. It really is amazing. Completely different from any other CA dmv office that I have ever been to and I have been to many of them.

DMV offices in CA have a well deserved reputation for being full of beaureaucratic (sp) unhelpful assholes. I don't have any idea why but this office is just different.

 
If you are an out of state resident moving INTO CA, then the 7500 mile rule does NOT apply to you. It only applies to current residents of the state attempting to bring in a vehicle with less than 7500 miles.

 
DO ALL OF THE DMV PAPERWORK AT ONE TIME. This means Driver's License, other vehicles and the bikes. If you wait to do the bikes later you will have problems. Don't ask how I know.

 
Can someone help me out? My son will be moving to Calif.with two TW 200's (dual sports) with less than the 7000 miles on them.

What will he have to do to get the licensed in Calif.. He now lives in Arizona.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Joe
Joe,

I live in California and I think I can lend some assistance. Have your son connect with the California DMV web site first. Secondly, hae him go to the "Make and Appointment" are and click on it. He can make an appoinment for the date and time he wants at the location of his choice. Then have him confirm it and he is good to go.

If he doesn't make an appointment, given sime offices have lines that can take 2 to 3 hours, he will have to wait in line.

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Rick

Can someone help me out? My son will be moving to Calif.with two TW 200's (dual sports) with less than the 7000 miles on them.

What will he have to do to get the licensed in Calif.. He now lives in Arizona.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Joe
 
Thanks Rick. Here in Arizona you can not make appts.

This will save him a lot of time

 
I just did 2 motorcycles and a car today and got my Calif drivers license back (moved to Nevada and back, but bought two motorcycles and sold another one while I was a resident there). My apologies to the Auburn DMV office for my earlier disparaging remarks -- they were beyond wonderful, and dramatically changed from my last visit there approx. three years ago. Friendly, efficient, and it was uncrowded -- I got there about 2 pm on a Wednesday and I hear Tuesday is good too, but that it gets more crowded later in the day and that Monday and Friday can be a bitch. The horribly obnoxious 350 lb. woman who used to snarl at everyone apparently no longer works there, and I dealt only with friendly and helpful folks.

Big props to pawtracks for the engine number heads up. On the Feejer, it's on the back of the tranny, between and above the rear motor mounts . . . AND you gotta use a mirror to read it if you don't have the rear tire off (bring the mirror and a flashlight with you to help your DMV personnel cruise through the process (VIN, odometer reading and engine no. identification). On the Blackbird, it is just above and inside the oil filler cap. Also, note that they'll charge you a penalty if you register the vehicle more than 20 days after you establish residency or begin your job in California. Other than that, the fees weren't as bad as I expected. You don't need proof of insurance to register it anymore -- the insurance company provides it directly to the DMV, as well as direct provision of any cancellation info after registration (and they suspend your registration if you can't provide proof of insurance then). I came with proof of new Calif insurance on everything, but she didn't need it. Will probably need a smog certificate on any car (but not bikes) you bring into the state for title change, too.

Lots of excellent info in this thread, and some of what I posted earlier was the result of reading a similar thread here some time ago. Gracias.

 
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So where in CA are you now XSkiBum? We need to know so we can drop in unannounced... :D .. and be sure to talk Ahhnoolld talk now.. K?

 
Another bit of wisdom from finishing up the process today: at least if you bought the bike from an out of state dealer (that was the case with both my bikes, one new and one used when I bought them), make sure to bring your bill of sale with you. There are a couple places on the application where you have to state the sales price of the bike, whether you paid sales tax, and if so, how much. They will want to make a copy of your bill of sale to show the sales tax you paid when you bought the bike (or apparently, charge you sales tax if you didn't).

So where in CA are you now XSkiBum?
Auburn is between Sacramento and Truckee, the north shore of Lake Tahoe and Reno. It's at the intersection of I-80 and Highway 49 at around 1200 feet elevation, 100 miles from Reno.

 
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If he's transferring his license, have him double-check his motorcycle endorsement at each step. I failed to do that, the endorsement was dropped at some point and I had to go through the entire process again. :(

No motorcycle road test required, just a written exam. Oh, and don't bother thinking through the question, just regurgitate the DMV motorcycle manual answer :D

 
Use Auto Club (AAA) if you can for DMV-type services. Less wait, more flexible. Brought in questionable New Mexico vehicle a few years ago. AAA waved me through.

 
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