Music to Ride By

[OrangevaleFJR]

depends on the type of road. However, Dire Straits (first album) is awesome road music.

For twisties, I go with my skiing song...the one, the ultimate...

Exodus Bob Marley and the Wailers

 

[OrangevaleFJR]

By the way, Yanktar is all wrong about who is and isn't going to be listened to in 100 years.

There have been a LOT of very popular firsts that created new genres of music in the last 60-70 years.

I don't know how originators like Muddy Waters, Ella Fitzgerald, Woody Guthrie, BB King, Jerry Garcia and many, many others get left of a list of fantastic original masters. Go see Ani DiFranco and see a presence on stage that Mozart wished he could find to sing his operas.

All that said, music while riding can be really nice, but I have to say I don't like any distractions in traffic.

 

[yanktar]

Yeah, well I've been wrong before..

I said 200 years, I think.

How many composers/musicians can you name from 1806? Who are still famous today?

Here's a toughie: Name all the great composers were were contemporaries of Mozart and Hayden. I'll name the greatest I know (besides M & H): Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach.

 

[Duff]

The sound of a well-tuned engine... nothing like a sewing machine at 4K-6K on an open road to make you smile!

Duff

 

[airboss]

Yea See--Yea see-- YEA SEE What happens when yea take politics out of the picture.

 

[OrangevaleFJR]

Yeah, well I've been wrong before..
I said 200 years, I think.

How many composers/musicians can you name from 1806?  Who are still famous today?

Here's a toughie: Name all the great composers were were contemporaries of Mozart and Hayden.  I'll name the greatest I know (besides M & H): Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach.

Let's see: (famous is relative...if you can find it on the Internet, is it famous?)

Schubert

Giovanni Battista Viotti

Charles & Samuel Wesley

Rossini

Schumann

Berlioz

Mendelson

Chopin

More modern

Bruckner....he's way cool

and Bob Marley

and Jerry Fuckin Garcia :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[yanktar]

Yeah, well I've been wrong before..
I said 200 years, I think.

How many composers/musicians can you name from 1806?  Who are still famous today?

Here's a toughie: Name all the great composers were were contemporaries of Mozart and Hayden.  I'll name the greatest I know (besides M & H): Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach.

Let's see: (famous is relative...if you can find it on the Internet, is it famous?)

Schubert

Giovanni Battista Viotti

Charles & Samuel Wesley

Rossini

Schumann

Berlioz

Mendelson

Chopin

More modern

Bruckner....he's way cool

and Bob Marley

and Jerry Fuckin Garcia :lol: :lol: :lol:

In 1806,

Franz Schubert was 9 years old--His greatness was ahead of him.

Viotti was 50 years old...and to this day is an obscure, lesser composer (and I never heard of him before).

Charles Wesley had been dead for 18 years and Samuel Wesley was 40 years old, both being even more obscure than Viotti.

Rossini was 14 years old, and many years from being the composer he would become.

Robert Schumann wasn't even an itch in his daddy's groin--he was born in 1810

Hector Berlioz was 3 years old.

Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy wasn't an itch either--he was born in 1809.

Chopin wasn't an itch either--born in 1810.

Bruckner was born in 1824.

Thank you for making my case.

You missed Hayden was 74, and, in 1806, world famous.

You missed Beethoven, who was 36

Czerny was 15.

Clementi was 54.

There were hundreds of classical era composers--these are the few really famous ones.

Again, thanks for making my case for me.

Don't despair--it's not just music, it's all art forms. That's because lots of people are doing the art, but only a very, very few in any era are truly blessed with genius and greatness. The others are only remembered by devotees of that era.

 

[snowmonkey]

SchubertGiovanni Battista Viotti

Charles & Samuel Wesley

Rossini

Schumann

Berlioz

Mendelson

Chopin

More modern

Bruckner....he's way cool

and Bob Marley

and Jerry Fuckin Garcia 

CHOPIN and the DEAD rule!!!

 

[odot]

Thanks Tim for clearing up the rush thing....and whoever else gave that info out. Peart was part of the reason I wanted a bmw (other then being half german). Didn't pan out, though. Didn't want to spend over 20 grand for a loaded bmw. I also have a couple of friends that ride beemers in minnesota. There are plenty of rush songs that go well with riding. Of course, I am biased as rush is my favourite all time rock band. Love classical music and jazz but I tend to prefer listening to those types of music loudly and in a quiet setting where I can concentrate on the music. I know rush so well I can barely hear it and know exactly what is going on. Brings me happy thoughts....(the scent of country air...)

 

[JimLor]

Just bought an iPod shuffle this past Sat - what a great piece of gear! Weights next to nothing and is easy to stick in a pocket. So far have about 90 songs on it and it's only about 60% full. Doesn't have all the features of the regular iPod, so it's easy to use! Your choices are - on/off - play songs randomly/in order. I use it with the Etomotic ER6is - wish I could use the earbuds but I don't think they'd stay on while putting your lid on. One of these days I'll install the ear pieces for my Autocom, but for now the ERs are great.

As I was headed north on VA Rt 522 yesterday "the" song came on - yup, Molly Hatchet "Flirtin' with Disaster."

 

[OrangevaleFJR]

Yeah, well I've been wrong before..
I said 200 years, I think.

How many composers/musicians can you name from 1806?  Who are still famous today?

Here's a toughie: Name all the great composers were were contemporaries of Mozart and Hayden.  I'll name the greatest I know (besides M & H): Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach.

Let's see: (famous is relative...if you can find it on the Internet, is it famous?)

Schubert

Giovanni Battista Viotti

Charles & Samuel Wesley

Rossini

Schumann

Berlioz

Mendelson

Chopin

More modern

Bruckner....he's way cool

and Bob Marley

and Jerry Fuckin Garcia :lol: :lol: :lol:

In 1806,

Franz Schubert was 9 years old--His greatness was ahead of him.

Viotti was 50 years old...and to this day is an obscure, lesser composer (and I never heard of him before).

Charles Wesley had been dead for 18 years and Samuel Wesley was 40 years old, both being even more obscure than Viotti.

Rossini was 14 years old, and many years from being the composer he would become.

Robert Schumann wasn't even an itch in his daddy's groin--he was born in 1810

Hector Berlioz was 3 years old.

Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy wasn't an itch either--he was born in 1809.

Chopin wasn't an itch either--born in 1810.

Bruckner was born in 1824.

Thank you for making my case.

You missed Hayden was 74, and, in 1806, world famous.

You missed Beethoven, who was 36

Czerny was 15.

Clementi was 54.

There were hundreds of classical era composers--these are the few really famous ones.

Again, thanks for making my case for me.

Don't despair--it's not just music, it's all art forms. That's because lots of people are doing the art, but only a very, very few in any era are truly blessed with genius and greatness. The others are only remembered by devotees of that era.

Your case was lost. I named more than you said would be remembered so there.

I win.

 

[yanktar]

Yeah, well I've been wrong before..
I said 200 years, I think.

How many composers/musicians can you name from 1806?  Who are still famous today?

Here's a toughie: Name all the great composers were were contemporaries of Mozart and Hayden.  I'll name the greatest I know (besides M & H): Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach.

Let's see: (famous is relative...if you can find it on the Internet, is it famous?)

Schubert

Giovanni Battista Viotti

Charles & Samuel Wesley

Rossini

Schumann

Berlioz

Mendelson

Chopin

More modern

Bruckner....he's way cool

and Bob Marley

and Jerry Fuckin Garcia :lol: :lol: :lol:

In 1806,

Franz Schubert was 9 years old--His greatness was ahead of him.

Viotti was 50 years old...and to this day is an obscure, lesser composer (and I never heard of him before).

Charles Wesley had been dead for 18 years and Samuel Wesley was 40 years old, both being even more obscure than Viotti.

Rossini was 14 years old, and many years from being the composer he would become.

Robert Schumann wasn't even an itch in his daddy's groin--he was born in 1810

Hector Berlioz was 3 years old.

Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy wasn't an itch either--he was born in 1809.

Chopin wasn't an itch either--born in 1810.

Bruckner was born in 1824.

Thank you for making my case.

You missed Hayden was 74, and, in 1806, world famous.

You missed Beethoven, who was 36

Czerny was 15.

Clementi was 54.

There were hundreds of classical era composers--these are the few really famous ones.

Again, thanks for making my case for me.

Don't despair--it's not just music, it's all art forms. That's because lots of people are doing the art, but only a very, very few in any era are truly blessed with genius and greatness. The others are only remembered by devotees of that era.

Your case was lost. I named more than you said would be remembered so there.

I win.

Sorry, but no go.

NONE of the composers you named were either working or famous in 1806. All were either obscure or famous in much later periods.

I named 3 composers working and/or famous in 1806--and you missed all 3 of them:

Hayden, Beethoven and Clementi. Of them, Clementi is far less known.

Besides, it's not the exact number--it's the fact that hundreds are forgotten and very, very few from any period are remembered.

George Bernard Shaw used to make the argument that there were NO great English language playwrights between Shakespeare and....Shaw! And, unless you count Shaw's fellow Irish contemporaries, like Yeats and Synge, he's absolutely correct. Depressingly so...

The point I'm TRYING to make is that in any art form at any time, lots of people are doing it, experimenting, imitating and copying, but very few achieve lasting greatness, because true genius is very, very rare. Why should Rock'n'Roll be any different?

 

[user 1521]

The point I'm TRYING to make is that in any art form at any time, lots of people are doing it, experimenting, imitating and copying, but very few achieve lasting greatness, because true genius is very, very rare. Why should Rock'n'Roll be any different?

How is all this relevant to what people like to listen to when riding?

 

[yanktar]

The point I'm TRYING to make is that in any art form at any time, lots of people are doing it, experimenting, imitating and copying, but very few achieve lasting greatness, because true genius is very, very rare.  Why should Rock'n'Roll be any different?

How is all this relevant to what people like to listen to when riding?

Not one damn bit. Unless you like to listen to Hayden, Beethoven, and Clementi while you ride--and why not?

But I'm just havin' fun here! After all, this board is "For Entertainment Purposes Only", isn't it? :lol:

 

[twowheelnut]

Not one damn bit. Unless you like to listen to Hayden, Beethoven, and Clementi while you ride--and why not?

How do you listen to these guys... They're all dead! And didn't Clemeti play outfield for the Pittsburgh Pirates? Oh, nevermind. That was his cousin from Puerto Rico, Clemente...

 

[OrangevaleFJR]

The point I'm TRYING to make is that in any art form at any time, lots of people are doing it, experimenting, imitating and copying, but very few achieve lasting greatness, because true genius is very, very rare.  Why should Rock'n'Roll be any different?

How is all this relevant to what people like to listen to when riding?

Not one damn bit. Unless you like to listen to Hayden, Beethoven, and Clementi while you ride--and why not?

But I'm just havin' fun here! After all, this board is "For Entertainment Purposes Only", isn't it? :lol:

Yanktar, you obviously fail to see the fault of your point. So do I, but that isn't important because you're wrong anyway. Beat that logic.

LOL

Anyway, It is impressive that you have so much information on those guys, they must be really famous and I must be really ignorant! I listened to all those guys while growing up, as my father is a classical music listener/collector. I love it and even bought some Fats Domino, Beethoven, Bach and that one dude who wrote the four seasons to listen to myself. Nice stuff. I really like Julian Breem (sp?) on the guitar too.

Anyway. Garcia will be one of em so there.

Now back to on the topic conversation. Another good riding song is Bolero! It was written by some rock n roller a LONG time ago.

 

[yanktar]

Antonio Vivialdi, not Frankie Vallie wrote the 4 seasons.

Bolero: Maurice Ravel, a Spanish song by a Frenchman, who transposed "Pictures at an Exhibition" from piano to orchestra--it wasn't Emerson, Lake and Palmer.

Don't like opera much, though. Never have. Nor Brahms. BIG fan of Orff's "Carmina Burana" but the "O Fortuna" section has been overplayed to death for the last 20 years in every supernatural movie.

Did you know that Leonard Bernstein, in "West Side Story" and his "Mass" quotes Carmina Burana alot? The main riff in "I like to Be In America" is almost identical to spots in Carmina.

Just mindless at-home ramblings.....

 

[NoCage]

AH HA... YT... you're at post # 666... I knew there was something...

I'm not much on opera either... except for Mozart's Requiem... impressive.

 

[yanktar]

AH HA... YT... you're at post # 666... I knew there was something...
I'm not much on opera either... except for Mozart's Requiem... impressive.

That makes sense--'cuz the Requiem isn't an opera. "Don Giovanni" is an opera. "Magic Flute" is an opera.

Mozart didn't finish the Requiem (despite the movie). Constanze Mozart commissioned a guy named Sussmayer (I think) to finish it. He just fleshed out the orchestrations, used Mozart's themes to extend and complete sections, and added nothing of his own. This doesn't keep the Requiem from being one of the greatest and most emotional pieces of music ever.

(my prev. post was 667! :lol: )