My hand toggle shifter is reversed on my AE

[FJRless]

Does anyone know of a simple way to reverse the hand toggle function so that upshifts are with the thumb pressing forward and downshifts are with the index finger pulling backward? After a half dozen rides on the new skoot I think, intuitively, it's wrong.

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

I don't have an AE wiring schematic, but, I think?, it may be possible (and not too difficult).

You'd think the Yamaha engineers made a conscious, rational, decision to do it the way they did? But, like alot of motorcycle foot-shifters: many prefer the 'down-for-higher-gears' -- just works better (more intuitive...? ).

I have a riding buddy who always tells me that everything is counter-intuitive for me...

 

[cardingtr]

At least the G-Forces works with current set up.

 

[madmike2]

I've only ridden an AE one time, a test ride @ WFO in Reno a few years ago, but it seems to me that pushing forward on the top WAS an upshift and pushing on the bottom (or pulling on the top) was a downshift.

Someone with an AE please post up.

It could be a simple as 2 wires reversed when the bike was set up. Or, to reversed the pattern, as simple as reversing 2 wires at the switch.

 

[wfooshee]

The switches are double-pole switches, so one side of each switch disconnects when the other side connects, probably as a failsafe for the controller. (If it doesn't see the normally-closed circuit it ignores the normally-open.) The switches are fed in a single connector, so it's not like you could take the plugs and swap them.

But if you can cut and splice wires, there are two wire pairs that would have to be swapped. On the 2006 diagram I have, you would swap the orange/white with the green/red, and then swap the orange/black with the green/black.

In automotive sequential shifters, upshifts are a pull, downshifts are a push, which kinda matches the buttons, doncha think?

 

[Patriot]

The switches are double-pole switches, so one side of each switch disconnects when the other side connects, probably as a failsafe for the controller. (If it doesn't see the normally-closed circuit it ignores the normally-open.) The switches are fed in a single connector, so it's not like you could take the plugs and swap them.
But if you can cut and splice wires, there are two wire pairs that would have to be swapped. On the 2006 diagram I have, you would swap the orange/white with the green/red, and then swap the orange/black with the green/black.

In automotive sequential shifters, upshifts are a pull, downshifts are a push, which kinda matches the buttons, doncha think?

like airplanes, right???

 

[wfooshee]

The switches are double-pole switches, so one side of each switch disconnects when the other side connects, probably as a failsafe for the controller. (If it doesn't see the normally-closed circuit it ignores the normally-open.) The switches are fed in a single connector, so it's not like you could take the plugs and swap them.
But if you can cut and splice wires, there are two wire pairs that would have to be swapped. On the 2006 diagram I have, you would swap the orange/white with the green/red, and then swap the orange/black with the green/black.

In automotive sequential shifters, upshifts are a pull, downshifts are a push, which kinda matches the buttons, doncha think?

like airplanes, right???

Per-zackly!

 

[Flybum]

Pulling for the upshift feels right for me but i use the foot shifter for the down shifts. 1. I hit the horn instead of the down-shifter or vice versa. 2. my foot got bored so i gave it something to do.

 

[JimNtexas]

The current AE setup seems natural to me, I'm sure you could reverse the wiring if you wanted.

The AE system won't let the rider downshift to a gear that would skid the tire or stall the motor, so when the shop mechanic tries to test ride your bike he probably won't kill himself.

As for me, I never, ever, use the foot pedal to ship. I admit to the occasional horn honk, but I just consider that a system check.

 

[mcatrophy]

Does anyone know of a simple way to reverse the hand toggle function so that upshifts are with the thumb pressing forward and downshifts are with the index finger pulling backward? After a half dozen rides on the new skoot I think, intuitively, it's wrong.

Simple answer: the hand toggle switch comes off quite easily, swap the orange/white wire with the green/red wire, swap the orange/black wire with the green/black wire.

My suggestion would be to do what many of us do; don't use your thumb, just use your index finger to flick the front lever forwards or backwards. Won't help your intuition, but we find it eases all changes, particularly those rapid up-and-downs in the S's. And it will stop accidental horn activation.

 

[user 213]

Does anyone know of a simple way to reverse the hand toggle function so that upshifts are with the thumb pressing forward and downshifts are with the index finger pulling backward? After a half dozen rides on the new skoot I think, intuitively, it's wrong.

Buy a Mt bike with rapid fire shifters. After you fall down a few times, you'll intuitively grasp the correct manner to shift.

If you swap the wires, never, ever let anyone ride your bike and always tell the dealer not to test ride it if you have any dealer service done.

 

[Rogue]

If you swap the wires, never, ever let anyone ride your bike and always tell the dealer not to test ride it if you have any dealer service done.

And don't ride anyone else's .

 

[FJRless]

Does anyone know of a simple way to reverse the hand toggle function so that upshifts are with the thumb pressing forward and downshifts are with the index finger pulling backward? After a half dozen rides on the new skoot I think, intuitively, it's wrong.

Simple answer: the hand toggle switch comes off quite easily, swap the orange/white wire with the green/red wire, swap the orange/black wire with the green/black wire.

My suggestion would be to do what many of us do; don't use your thumb, just use your index finger to flick the front lever forwards or backwards. Won't help your intuition, but we find it eases all changes, particularly those rapid up-and-downs in the S's. And it will stop accidental horn activation.

Thanks for reserching and providing the technical info I need to make the change and for the useful suggestion.