My new rear tire has rotated 12" relative to the rim!

[madmike2]

I know that FJRay rides "briskly", but he doesn't accelerate quickly. Perhaps part of the issue is the quickness at which you get to cruising speed. If you are hard on the throttle while accelerating or "banging" through the gears, that is putting more stress on the bead.

I know that a gentle hand while accelerating is one of the reasons the L.D. guys get such good tire mileage.

Still....it is the tire (and the attendent bead/rim interface) and not your mounting technique or the lube you use.

 

[Grumpy]

That's hard to understand. I actually grease my tire beads with silicone grease. Makes them go on and come off easy, much easier to break the bead for dismount, and prevents corrosion on the rim. I never had one slip. My friend on a ZZR ran a 10.3 with tires I greased on and had no problems.

Don't do this as it never dries out and can come off the rim!!!!!!! Ask Ashe

Yep, BTDT with the Stinkos. Stinkos have slipped several inches. It's just plain scary.

I musta missed this little information tidbit in your review. <_<

What did you use as mounting lube, and since you ran them till they were worn, did they ever stop rotating?

If they stop after 360', I'm golden.

I did not include it in the review because I wasn't sure that it was a characteristic of the tire until I removed them and compared the edges between brands.

My rear was the only one that slipped. I don't think it ever stopped rotating.

I used NoMar tire snot as well, but have had zero issues with it on other brands.

Grumpy will jump in here soon and declare that the problem is 100% due to my right hand. Same thing my Mom used to say.

Do you have hair on the palm?

 

[Zorlac]

Well I just came home from the shore, about 55 miles, I didn't baby it and it didn't slip any further, so I think the "oh so wonderous lube" is drying out from repeated heating cycles.

It comes off tomorrow for a cleaning cause I know so many inquiring minds want to know. <_<

 

[Zorlac]

It hasn't budged on the rim since I cleaned off the lube residue with isopropyl alcohol, so I'm convinced that Murphy's tire lube from NoMar leaves a residue that can cause slippage.

 

[Fred W]

Can anyone explain why using soapy water for tire mounting is supposed to be a bad idea?

I've always used it and never had any slippage problem (that I know of). My theory is that it is only slippery when wet and the stuff dries up in a very short time. After mounting a quick rinse gets all the soap off any exposed surfaces. And with an air tight seal along the outer edge of the bead, any soap residue on the bead should not get wet again.

So why is it so bad?

BTW, when I went to 2 different local bike shops and asked what they used as lube to mount tires they both looked at me like I had 2 heads and said, "we just use soapy water".

 

[Constant Mesh]

https://www.agscompany.com/products.php?lin...amp;product=224

https://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLM...sed+%2f+RuGlyde

The soapy water must work fine. With a commercial tire mounting machine maybe the lubricant isn't all that important.

 

[radman]

https://www.agscompany.com/products.php?lin...amp;product=224
https://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLM...sed+%2f+RuGlyde

The soapy water must work fine. With a commercial tire mounting machine maybe the lubricant isn't all that important.

Actually, it is. The machine has power enough to pretty much destroy a tire in the process of trying to mount it. Have seen them peel off enough bead rubber to effectively eliminate any chance of a good seal. RuGlyde is what we use, and have for years. By the way, silicone is a real real bad idea. Where tire lubes made for mounting will dry and actually improve the seal, silicone just keeps on lubing.

 

[FJRSTAR]

It hasn't budged on the rim since I cleaned off the lube residue with isopropyl alcohol, so I'm convinced that Murphy's tire lube from NoMar leaves a residue that can cause slippage.

What is your take on the tire now that you must have more miles on it?

Did you spoon on a front Shinko as well?

 

[Zorlac]

It hasn't budged on the rim since I cleaned off the lube residue with isopropyl alcohol, so I'm convinced that Murphy's tire lube from NoMar leaves a residue that can cause slippage.

What is your take on the tire now that you must have more miles on it?

Did you spoon on a front Shinko as well?

After I cleaned it up, I put a white paint mark over the faint red balance dot on the sidewall, just to be absolutely sure of its position on the rim. After about 500 miles or so it hasn't budged and I'm satisfied with this tire.

I still have a Metz Z6 on the front that has some life left.

 

[ELP_JC]

The scary part about slipping is not while accelerating; it's while BRAKING. I can skimp on a lot of things, but not on motorcycle tires. Good day.

JC

 

[Zorlac]

The scary part about slipping is not while accelerating; it's while BRAKING. I can skimp on a lot of things, but not on motorcycle tires. Good day.JC

Well as far as I'm concerned, it was the Murphy's lube residue that was causing the slip, not the tire itself.The next tire I mount I'll be trying Sprayway glass cleaner as mounting lubricant.

I doubt the instantaneous torque during braking (well, maybe if you were doing a stoppie) is as high as when you whack the throttle, but I try to avoid severe rear breaking anyway.