Need more techy help on the puter

[Fencer]

Apart from advice posted to go get another computer. Help me out here

I aquired a firewire today so I may upload my vids. The prob is the puter aint recognizing it. The prob must lie within my puter as I hooked it up to a friends puter and am able to download (this time I will load to his tranfer to mine then eventually get it uploaded for ya'll) I don't want to do that every time so help me out.

Device manager says the port and driver are working properly. no errors or conflicts. And If I can upload to a diff puter that means the camera,drivers and firewire are all working ok.

My only conclusion is the connector itself must be bad and not recognizing the cable. Do you concure? It must have been bad from day 1 from the factory. This is the first time I have ever tried to used a firewire on this puter.

Can the port be replaced? Just screw in place and plug to the mother board?

A Gateway. 3 years old but still pretty good by todays standards as I bought a heafty machine when I got it

A P-4 3.06 gig processor and a Large Vid Card

any other suggestions?

 

[jwilly]

Easy fix, add a pci firewire card. you can buy them at almost any computer store.

Example: Clicky

JW

 

[Fencer]

Easy fix, add a pci firewire card. you can buy them at almost any computer store.
Example: Clicky

JW

Not an option.

No free slots :angry:

 

[jwilly]

Easy fix, add a pci firewire card. you can buy them at almost any computer store.
Example: Clicky

JW

Not an option.

No free slots :angry:

WTF do you have in all of your slots!! HeHe, that sounds kinda weird.

 

[Windjammer]

Have you tried downloading the latest driver for your OS? was the OS the same on the puter you tested on? Was it updated to the same level as yours (service packs, etc)?

Just wondering if you eliminated driver/OS conflict possibility. Otherwise you're tearing into hardware. Hate to say it, but make sure oyu're plugging into a compatible port and the plug is in all the way for sure. Sometimes it's easy to overlook the obvious and tear the whole thing apart....

 

[DaSpyda]

Well, is the Firewire port part of the motherboard, or a card?

Go the the manufacturer's site and look up the latest driver, as suggested previously.

 

[wfooshee]

What OS on the computer. probably XP if it's 3 years old, so that should be OK.

Are you using the same cable you used on the other computer, or did you have to switch cables because the PC's connector is different? I fought a bad cable once for several days before figuring it out.

Also, is the FireWire port disabled in the OS device manager?

Sometimes the networking takes the FireWaire port as a LAN adapter. See if it's got a network configuration you can trash.

 

[Fencer]

Sometimes the networking takes the FireWaire port as a LAN adapter. See if it's got a network configuration you can trash.

I think we may have a winner

The 1394 port is set up as a LAN connection. I have disabled the firewall, but I don't know how to remove it from the LAN setting.

I think If I remove and re-install from device manager it will go back to LAN settings.

I have gone to device manager and disabled it under Net adapters. What else?

Properties shows this as a NET adapter

What do I change it to? How?

 

[wfooshee]

Well, now that I go look at my laptop, it has the 1394 connection in the network connections list, and disabling it kills the FireWire port. It has all the client and protocol associations any network adapter has, so apparently I mis-remembered when I made my last post.

So the network mode of the FireWire is not the issue, I don't think. I HATE being wrong.

The interface DOES need to be there, and it DOES need to be enabled to be active.

When you connect the camera, does the computer tell you it recognizes a device? It should behave the same way as connecting a USB device, the little "Hardware Found" pop-up in the System Tray.

 

[Fencer]

Well, now that I go look at my laptop, it has the 1394 connection in the network connections list, and disabling it kills the FireWire port. It has all the client and protocol associations any network adapter has, so apparently I mis-remembered when I made my last post.
So the network mode of the FireWire is not the issue, I don't think. I HATE being wrong.

The interface DOES need to be there, and it DOES need to be enabled to be active.

When you connect the camera, does the computer tell you it recognizes a device? It should behave the same way as connecting a USB device, the little "Hardware Found" pop-up in the System Tray.

I don't think you are wrong.

The laptop I have from a friend with the firewire port IS disabled with a big red X in device manager. When I plug the cable in (to his) it recognizes the cable and starts a download (while the big red X is showing disabled)

Could it be a bios config? ButTTTT, My simplistic understanding of bios is a turn on or off kinda thing. I obviously need it on, but configured diff.

 

[mdisher]

Couple of things to check (might be redundant).

Assumes Windows XP.

1) Is it enabled in the bois? If you are showing a 1394 network adapter in the device manager it probably is.

2) Is the port on the front/back of the puter actually connected to the motherboard? I've seen them not be connected.

3) You can disable the networking portion by simply disabling it in the Network preferences (right-click on My Network Places, choose properties, locate your 1394 Connection, right click on that and choose disable). Should have no effect on using it as you intend (as a mo betta USB Connection).

4) Open Device manager and make sure the only Red X is associated with the network adapter part. You should still see a 1394 Bus/Host Controller or some other description in the list of controllers. It needs to not be x'd out as well.

If none of the above work, make sure you have XP Service Pack 2, cause it did change some of the USB/Firewire stuff.

- Check with Gateway for newer mobo drivers, Bios Upgrades, and what not.

If that still doesn't do it, I would suspect the port or connector.

What are in all of your slots? Cause PCI FW cards are dirt cheap as previously indicated.

 

[Fencer]

Couple of things to check (might be redundant).
Assumes Windows XP.

1) Is it enabled in the bois? If you are showing a 1394 network adapter in the device manager it probably is.

2) Is the port on the front/back of the puter actually connected to the motherboard? I've seen them not be connected.

3) You can disable the networking portion by simply disabling it in the Network preferences (right-click on My Network Places, choose properties, locate your 1394 Connection, right click on that and choose disable). Should have no effect on using it as you intend (as a mo betta USB Connection).

4) Open Device manager and make sure the only Red X is associated with the network adapter part. You should still see a 1394 Bus/Host Controller or some other description in the list of controllers. It needs to not be x'd out as well.

If none of the above work, make sure you have XP Service Pack 2, cause it did change some of the USB/Firewire stuff.

- Check with Gateway for newer mobo drivers, Bios Upgrades, and what not.

If that still doesn't do it, I would suspect the port or connector.

What are in all of your slots? Cause PCI FW cards are dirt cheap as previously indicated.

XP = yes

1 bios = The only thing I find in Bios is enable/dis for a lan card. I dised it and lost internet, but still no camera

2 NO - I just cracked the case to look again. It is what is filling up my 3 PCI slots.

1- modem

2 TV card

3 Soundblaster audio card (SB0090)with the 1394 4 pin done by cable to the front and a 6 pin in the rear. If I replace the card I lose sound

3/4 disabled but bus controller is enabled

Service pak 2 is a go

I repluged everything to make sure it s connected.

I think its gotta be a bad port/cable. I can find new PCI cards but haven't been able to locate just a cable to replace this one.

I looked on the MB and there is not a slot I can plug it into

 

[mdisher]

Since you have broadband, ditch the modem...

That's sooo 1980's

I can count on one hand the number of times I've used a 'modem' in the past 10 years, though obviously they are still used in some cases.

(I can't see you dialing into a router to reconfigure it because you are 'out of band' but if you do that on a regular basis, a modem can still be handy, if that's the case, you could always get a cheapie USB modem to get buy on those rare occasions).

 

[wfooshee]

I would have ditched the modem for a second TV card so I could record different channels simultaneously!!

Seriously, trash the modem and spend 20 bucks for a FireWire card and see if that one works.

Drivers for the SB0090 up to date?

 

[Fencer]

I can't -

I use it daily for my business.

Its my answering machine/fax

 

[mdisher]

I can't -I use it daily for my business.

Its my answering machine/fax

Dude, answering machine/faxes are a dime a dozen...

Your best bet might be to set that puter asside for that purpose and get the latest wizbang technology. Dare I say, get a Mac for Vid editing? I shudder at the thought, but they do work so well.

New iMacs are to be announced next week.

 

[jwilly]

While your out buying an over priced Mac get yourself a Harley too!

JW

 

[DaSpyda]

Also, doesn't your motherboard have onboard sound, too?