Another adventure bike coming:
https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/honda-africa-twin-crf1000l-coming-2016/#more-86712
https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/honda-africa-twin-crf1000l-coming-2016/#more-86712
New African Twin from Honda coming
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Hudson
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I'm most interested in this bike. In an ideal world, this would be the Japanese version of the KTM 990, but with Honda reliability and hopefully more slender and lightweight. The industry needs a 400lb proper dual sport.
russperry
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After reading Colebatch's reports on ADV Rider for the last several years and his trips to Siberia, Mongolia and beyond, I would think that a really great adventure bike would have the following:
1) Max weight of 400 pounds - if you're doing any real technical off road work, ideally something under 350 pounds so you could survive picking the beast up 3-10 times in a day - god forbid trying to hoist the 600+ pound weights for the BMW GSA, Super T and Triumph. If you just want to call it adventure and mainly slab it to and from a 5 mile graded dirt road then by all means join the other huge beasts.
2) At least 7 gallons of fuel standard, and maybe up to 10 with a factory authorized aux tank. Range ought to be at least 300 miles if you want to take on real adventuring.
3) Spoked rims that don't require rim locks - got to keep tube changes as simple as possible.
I guess the market for these bikes is primarliy old codgers with some financial stability so that means that good marketing demands a comfortable big bike with lots of gadgets that supports a $18-25k price tag and very comfortable road manners, rather than true adventure capability.
we shall see....
1) Max weight of 400 pounds - if you're doing any real technical off road work, ideally something under 350 pounds so you could survive picking the beast up 3-10 times in a day - god forbid trying to hoist the 600+ pound weights for the BMW GSA, Super T and Triumph. If you just want to call it adventure and mainly slab it to and from a 5 mile graded dirt road then by all means join the other huge beasts.
2) At least 7 gallons of fuel standard, and maybe up to 10 with a factory authorized aux tank. Range ought to be at least 300 miles if you want to take on real adventuring.
3) Spoked rims that don't require rim locks - got to keep tube changes as simple as possible.
I guess the market for these bikes is primarliy old codgers with some financial stability so that means that good marketing demands a comfortable big bike with lots of gadgets that supports a $18-25k price tag and very comfortable road manners, rather than true adventure capability.
we shall see....
Bugnatr
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It has a chain.
escapefjrtist
Searching for Dry Roads
Twigg
Just an old, bald man!
Fair point. On the other hand, I can't help but feel that shaft drive is even more suited to bikes with off-road pretensions than a chain, which is extremely vulnerable to things like sand, and water ... or both.
I know a shaft adds some weight, but it is low w eight, below the center of gravity weight and hardly affects the ability to lift a fallen bike.
Chains are a cheaper option, and they have less inertia, but I wonder if Honda have this right.
Bugnatr
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Oh I do enjoy my Katoom,and my KLR but the chain maintenance still sucks Mr. G
Pterodactyl
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Our five bikes are divided into three chain drive and two shaft. I much prefer the shaft drive bikes. However, if one is riding in very remote places a chain has advantages. It is lighter, dependable, easy to fix, a spare can be carried and even remote locations may have a place to buy a chain that will work.
tbonesullivan
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It will be interesting to see how this turns out, whether it'll be a TRUE adventure bike, or another bike that wants to be an adventure bike. Too many of the "adventure bikes" out there are too danged big and heavy to really be one.
Chain vs shaft, well that's always a big thing to think about. Chains are more maintenance, BUT the maintenance is pretty easy. If the chain gets dirty, you clean it off and relube.
Chain vs shaft, well that's always a big thing to think about. Chains are more maintenance, BUT the maintenance is pretty easy. If the chain gets dirty, you clean it off and relube.
Bungie
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YAOAB.
(yet another overweight adventure bike) Garunteed from Honda. My 2-fitty weighs a hernia inducing 320lbs.
(yet another overweight adventure bike) Garunteed from Honda. My 2-fitty weighs a hernia inducing 320lbs.
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tbonesullivan
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Yeah, with a 1000cc engine, you can be sure it'll weigh a bunch, considering how much more than sport tourer weighs compared to everyone else's. They make good stuff but like most, the intended market for this is not going to be true dual sporters. It'll be guys who want a full featured tourer that can easily do a bit of gravel and dirt roads.
Twigg
Just an old, bald man!
According to the article I read, Honda are aiming for a dry weight of 440 lb.
That would indeed be new.
That would indeed be new.
