New multi tracking lidar

[weekend rider]

First it is nice not having to work today, now for the bad news for all the riders,

headlines in the local paper were warning all motorist cars, trucks, motorcyclist, any thing that goes down the road that can be ticketed. The CHP are touting a new tool they have for catching speeders going down the road.

" Thanks to LIDAR,a LIGHT and DETECTION RANGING monitor,Woodland CHP is now able to stop more reckless and speeding drivers than ever before. Written by staff reporter, Lizeth Cazares Woodland Democrat Sept. 4,2006.

This device uses laser instead of radar, it locks on to just one vechicle or bike even in a group running together. " It can also lock onto a group of cars, bike and show the distance and speed of each.

So who is going to be the first company to offer a device to help stamp out unwanted LIDAR?

Does anyone else out have any more information about this device?

Another farkle and more expense just to have fun.

Insurance companies are going to love this, added revenue from ticket sales to bike riders.

Not a good day to speed :angry2: weekend rider

 

[bramfrank]

I wonder how it identifies the various vehicles for the officer? Perhaps it has a digital camera and overlays speeds on top of the photographs?

 

[throttlejockeyTJ]

Not all new technology break-throughs are for the best. TJ :dribble:

 

[boardsNbikes]

All, of course, in the interest of safety for the motoring public :arrowheadsmiley: It would be something if they invented an inattentive driver detector.

 

[Tx White Knight]

I wonder how it identifies the various vehicles for the officer? Perhaps it has a digital camera and overlays speeds on top of the photographs?

they look through a view finder and aim on a headlight or front plate (something reflective)

There are already several things out there to help (so they say) not get pinged.

1. a coating on your lights and plate that asorbs laser

2. a electronic device to jam laser

 

[kaitsdad]

Gee.... I find it hard to believe that some of you guys speed.......

 

[evil_henchman]

Insurance companies are going to love this, added revenue from ticket sales to bike riders.

That's why they supply PD's with radars. All in the name of safety of course...Assholes :angry2:

 

[bramfrank]

I wonder how it identifies the various vehicles for the officer? Perhaps it has a digital camera and overlays speeds on top of the photographs?

they look through a view finder and aim on a headlight or front plate (something reflective)

There are already several things out there to help (so they say) not get pinged.

1. a coating on your lights and plate that asorbs laser

2. a electronic device to jam laser

Well, this thing supposedly tracks multiple simultaneous targets - aiming at MY headlight isn't going to do it for them.
If they stop 4 of us, how can they determine who was doing what?

 

[XLR8]

Umm, these things aren't exactly new though.

-r

 

[Bluestreek]

First it is nice not having to work today, now for the bad news for all the riders,
headlines in the local paper were warning all motorist cars, trucks, motorcyclist, any thing that goes down the road that can be ticketed. The CHP are touting a new tool they have for catching speeders going down the road.

" Thanks to LIDAR,a LIGHT and DETECTION RANGING monitor,Woodland CHP is now able to stop more reckless and speeding drivers than ever before. Written by staff reporter, Lizeth Cazares Woodland Democrat Sept. 4,2006.

This device uses laser instead of radar, it locks on to just one vechicle or bike even in a group running together. " It can also lock onto a group of cars, bike and show the distance and speed of each.

So who is going to be the first company to offer a device to help stamp out unwanted LIDAR?

Does anyone else out have any more information about this device?

Another farkle and more expense just to have fun.

Insurance companies are going to love this, added revenue from ticket sales to bike riders.

Not a good day to speed :angry2: weekend rider

Yuba City and Marysville CHP also just received some of these so beware on hwy 99 and hwy 70 They like to set up on an overpass. After your detected they will radio to a car, who will pull you over and give you a written performance award. They are also working with the local police. Most radar detectors will pick it up, but it will be to late to do any thing about it.

 

[odot]

Yet another reason to keep your eyes open, kids.

 

[madmike2]

Yuba City and Marysville CHP also just received some of these so beware on hwy 99 and hwy 70 They like to set up on an overpass. After your detected they will radio to a car, who will pull you over and give you a written performance award. They are also working with the local police. Most radar detectors will pick it up, but it will be to late to do any thing about it.

Should you get a ticket per this scenario, check to see if there is an "issuing officer" and an "arresting officer" on the ticket. The officer who pulls you over to write the ticket is the "issuing officer" (unless he actually pacess you). If it is a Radar ticket, the officer with the "gun" is the arresting officer because he clocked you. DO NOT admit you were speeding.

Its a little snafu that I've heard some use to beat the ticket in court when the issuing oficer showed up but not the arresting officer (actually an airplane officer).

 

[Tx White Knight]

they look through a view finder and aim on a headlight or front plate (something reflective)

There are already several things out there to help (so they say) not get pinged.

1. a coating on your lights and plate that asorbs laser

2. a electronic device to jam laser

Well, this thing supposedly tracks multiple simultaneous targets - aiming at MY headlight isn't going to do it for them.

If they stop 4 of us, how can they determine who was doing what?

Here is the site where I saw the information, looks like they just ping one after another because it is so fast

Interesting video under the pic too.

https://www.roadlesstraveledmovie.com/

 

[HIS2006]

Here is an informational web site on the LIDAR and much more.

Veil Stealth Products

 

[FJR_pig]

Umm, these things aren't exactly new though.
-r

+1

These have been around for about 5 years, guys. Nothing to get too wrapped around the axle about, either.

 

[sleddoc]

Umm, these things aren't exactly new though.

-r

+1

These have been around for about 5 years, guys. Nothing to get too wrapped around the axle about, either.

+1 - Google LIDAR it has been around for years - I have the tickets to prove it. :glare:

 

[ponyfool]

I love hearing the "I heard if you do this" type things people come up with for beating a ticket.

Yes, if one officer uses a device and the other pulls you over, it is required that both appear in court. However, this notion that the one with the device is the arresting officer is just wrong. First of all, if it is a speeding ticket, no arrest has been made. It is a detention. Secondly, the officer who physically takes the person into custody if there is an arrest, or the person who issues the citation is the arresting officer or issuing officer. Doing so on someone else's probable cause is irrelevant.

As mentioned in another, semi-related thread, denying you were speeding is a sure fire way to get a ticket. It is a double edged sword really. Be honest, tell the truth, show remorse and express the fact that a citation isn't necessary to correct the driving behavior, and your chances of getting a warning increase dramatically. Of course, doing so will nail the coffin shut so to speak on getting out of it in court. But a person who denies any wrong doing isn't expressing to the officer that they will think about and correct their behavior, so a citation is issued.

By contrast, the percentages of people who actually win in court are roughly 10%, at least in Oregon including when officers don't show up. In most states, including Oregon, the burden of proof in traffic court is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" it is "by preponderance of the evidence." This means nothing more than "more likely than not." So, once you get a ticket, good luck winning, especially against a seasoned officer. I can't remember the last time I lost a case in traffic court, but it's been at least 8 years. I guess you could always hope the officer doesn't show up.

IMO, the best chance of beating a ticket is not getting one. Since the average officer only writes 50% of the people he pulls over (again, using general stats from my jurisdiction), your chances are much better at winning the cop over than trying to win in court. Hell, even if the cop writes 80% of the people he pulls over, you have a 10% better chance of winning on the street than you do if you get the ticket and take it to court.

But hey, that's just my perspective from the other side of the badge.

 

[weekend rider]

Well a big thanks to all that have gave information about the alledgely new type of radar (Lidar).

It nice to know that there is at least something that may help, VEIL.

Maybe when we are on our bikes we should carry a dozen chocolate donuts and use that as a peace offering in lew of a ticket.

I was om my bike heading on hwy 50 heading for the mountains and a CHP on his BMW passed me doing about 80 I had my throttle meister locked around 70 never bothered me. About 2 miles down the road had a car pulled over.

Comming back home and heading down hwy. 99 another CHP had a cager pulled over. Also I was able to warn another rider going the oposite dorection about the Leo maybe waiting for another victim.

? Has anyone tried a can of that "VEIL"?

weekend rider

 

[evil_henchman]

Aside from some advanced electronic warfare devices not available to the general public there's no active device that works any better than this. Don't waste your money.