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Its hard to imagine that the average US citizen would be willing to let the government, or anyone else, track them with GPS. But then I used to think that we would never have cameras monitoring red lights or cameras with radar detectors sending out tickets, so who knows.

We don't tolerate toll roads in this neck of the woods. A GPS that collected the equivalent of tolls would go over here like Habenero peppers on your grits.

 
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It is just another cash grab, which is nothing new, but the idea of being tracked is way too big brother for me. I just don't understand how can blow up Iraq, pay to rebuild it ( Remember the supposed method was via the sale of Iraqi Oil) and not afford to maintain our infrastructure with all the taxes we do pay on gas. Perhaps if the money went to roads, bridges etc. instead of Buses with 3 people on them, and the rest of the waste. In the Puget Sound area we have buses that you can take into Seattle, however there are not enough parking spaces in the park n' ride. Add to that it is a thieves haven and not policed ( I had 2 cars stolen) it is not worth it.

 
Good thing cars don't already have technology in them to monitor how far they have gone, otherwise this would be stupid. :glare: Why not just make it an annual tax and take an odometer reading like they do in NY at inspection time.

EDIT: Oops, I see the second link covers that.

 
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I can see the logic of taxing mileage instead of fuel, but they damn well better make sure it is instead, not in addition to. But tracking mileage driven by GPS is a VERY small step from tracking locations visited. "We think he's a terrorist!" "OK, here's the GPS record."

I can also understand how the tax base the road funding is built around is diminishing, with more efficient cars being bought less often, yet the same portion of fewer cars and less fuel going into the kitty.

I don't understand how they can say that switching fuels reduces the revenue from the gas tax. Does anybody really think hydrogen as a fuel wouldn't be taxed?

But the thing that concerns me most about this is: how is someone supposed to buy "cheaper" fuel all year and remember to set aside those hundreds or thousands of mileage dollars for the annual bill? Or do they put into "escrow" a certain percentage of the fuel purchase or something all along. But who keeps track of that? Well, you'll need an agency, of course, and a code to define their responsibilites and activities, and assigning everyone an account number to track who's put what into it and what they actually should have, and some way of differentiating commercial vs. private use, and . . .

Is any of this sounding familiar?

 
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Too MUCH Government. FREEDOM is going out the window and no one seems to care!!!!!!!!!!!!! What's next? :angry2: :blink:

 
That doesn't really say anything about the topic, it's just a political rant, and those get threads closed. Please refrain; if you have nothing to say, then say nothing. (Then again, 2-1/2 years, 18 posts, maybe that is your philosophy. :rolleyes: )

Again, when the thread concerns rules, regulations, and law, please stay on topic, or you'll get an otherwise productive exchange shut down.

 
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I can see the logic of taxing mileage instead of fuel, but they damn well better make sure it is instead, not in addition to. But tracking mileage driven by GPS is a VERY small step from tracking locations visited. "We think he's a terrorist!" "OK, here's the GPS record."
Oregon is already working on a GPS based system. This will allow them to tax you at a higher rate on "congested"roadways such as inbound to Portland on the morning commute. The writing is on the wall... https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/RUFPP/mileage_works.shtml

Paul Peloquin

Monmouth OR

 
Oregon is already working on a GPS based system. This will allow them to tax you at a higher rate on "congested"roadways such as inbound to Portland on the morning commute. The writing is on the wall... https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/RUFPP/mileage_works.shtml
Paul Peloquin

Monmouth OR
You mean like London's congestion charge? :p

I remember seeing something about this a while back. Tax deductions for in-state visitors while out of state visitors do not get any such break were the big selling points to voters. It basically penalized anyone from out of state while not so heavily penalizing anyone inside the state, with the promise that the money will go to worthwhile ventures.

I wonder if this means I'll have to fill out several hundred forms if I go between states on a round the USA trip, or if I can just flash my Australian driver's license and be exempt from doing it. Either way, I'd be against it purely on the principle that I've never seen a tax removed, only added - even when the "Goods and Services Tax" was applied in Australia, supposedly to remove all the other taxes that were in place (truth is, they just added it on top of everything else, I know what Wikipedia says, it's complete BS, prices went up way more than 10%).

EDIT: I was also watching a video about urban sprawl and how the ineffective transportation system resulted in a huge urban sprawl with no effective public transit system to support it. This tax would effectively penalize anyone that wanted to have the american dream but couldn't afford to buy a big block of land with a house on it within city limits.

 
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Why not just some sort of device that gives you how many miles you drove in a year, that perhaps goes into a simple USB stick? One issues would be going from state to state or in Mexico or Canada. I am in sales and cover the PNW into British Columbia, OR and ID.

 
Sorry, but that is some **** right there! Well, first if I were a citizen of NC I would not allow this state owned device to be place in my privately owned vehicle that is a GPS tracking device. (Side Bar) Not only is this device tracking my mileage in and out of state, but it can be used to tell the state and my insurance company how I drive and how fast I drive. (Jeff Ashe will have to move to another state :rolleyes: ). Back on the subject; This new way of collecting taxes would fail to collect the tax from the over the road truckers. They can't have a gas tax and a millage tax at the same time and expect the citizens to allow double taxation, due they? Also, what about the taxi cab companies and deliverey companies like DHL, UPS, FedEX, etc... Those guys put a lot of miles on the roads every day! Bad idea NC!

My $.02

 
And it's not even PENDING LEGISLATION....which was is exempted on this forum for this subject. Please keep it within the rules of the forum. Several have already crossed the line.

 
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