Oil Change

[Wyosteve]

Stupid question but here goes. I'm at work and want to stop on the way home to pick up oil for an oil change. Don't want to go home and look at manual and danged if I can remember the exact amount of oil needed for a change with fileter.

 

[crewof1]

I can't remember exactly, but it's about 4.25 quarts. I get 5 so I'll have a little left over to add between changes, not that I've had to.

HTH

 

[SkooterG]

Depending on how anal your are - do you do like I do and take it off the centerstand and put it on the sidestand to get those last few precious milliliters out?

4.2 - 4.4 quarts with a filter change.

 

[Wyosteve]

Thanks, guys. No Skooter, haven't tried the sidestand thing. Sounds like a good idea. Guess I'll do some oil changing this afternoon. Supposed to be nice in Denver on Friday, think I feel a cold coming on.

 

[markjenn]

I've always noted a little weirdness in oil level checking during changes. The spec says 4.2 qts (with filter change). So I put in 4 and run the engine up to check for leaks. Afterwards, the level, while acceptably within the range of the sight glass, seems a little low, so I top it off with the 0.2 qts which puts it right at the full mark.

But the first time I ride for a distance and check it after the ride, it's now over the top of the sight glass and may not come back down to the full mark until a couple thousand miles into the change cycle. This leads me to believe that 4.2 may overfill a bit.

The next time I think I'm going to do 4 qts even, and ride a bit before deciding it needs more.

- Mark

 

[JimV]

Metric bike, metric oil requirement. I use Silkolene because my dealer carries the handy 4 liter jug. Drain it out, change the filter, dump it in. Done. No leftover 3/4 quart.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[chipset]

I do my oil change on the side stand.

I remove the plug, then the filter.

I let it drain for about 30 minutes. Until there aren't any drips coming out.

Then, I fill to the middle of the glass site. And test her out.

Then I clean up and am done. I just grab the 5 quart jug and fill'er till she's done.

 

[C&C]

It doesn't really matter that you get the last couple of drops out. The crankcase holds a little over 5 quarts, so unless you plan on tipping the bike upside down, you're not going to get it all out anyway.

 

[radman]

Metric bike, metric oil requirement. I use Silkolene because my dealer carries the handy 4 liter jug. Drain it out, change the filter, dump it in. Done. No leftover 3/4 quart.
Cheers,

Jim

+1. The M1 5 qt jug has liter lines on it. Set it to 4 liters and it's perfect, no need to look at the sight glass or care-you've nailed it.

 

[Ignacio]

But the first time I ride for a distance and check it after the ride, it's now over the top of the sight glass and may not come back down to the full mark until a couple thousand miles into the change cycle.

I've ran into the same thing and think it has do with doing your oil change on the centerstand. Filled to the center of the glass while on the centerstand, long ride, let it set on the kickstand, checked, and then it was over the glass. I thought oil was coming from the FJR Fairy or something.

I worried there was too much, but a tilt over to far right while I looked at the glass revealed it's just barely over.

 

[SkooterG]

I've ran into the same thing and think it has do with doing your oil change on the centerstand. Filled to the center of the glass while on the centerstand, long ride, let it set on the kickstand, checked, and then it was over the glass. I thought oil was coming from the FJR Fairy or something.

Uhhh.......You are supposed to check the oil level on the centerstand. RTFM!!! In fact, you are supposed to first put it up on the centerstand before turning the engine off.

Yes, these factors will make a difference and you must adhere to them to get any consistent readings.

Even then, oil level on FJR does seem to like to rise..........

 

[smitty141]

I just buy oil by the case. That way you always have some extra...

 

[FJRocket]

I just buy oil by the case. That way you always have some extra...

Yep, me too. Buy filters several at a time, and also several sqwashers as well. Heck I even have a set of spark plugs just waiting.

Fill it, run it, fill it again. I think if you fill it to the top of the window on the center stand, it just about ends up perfect with a new (empty) filter. Anyone else confirm or deny this?

 

[leebunyard]

The service manual calls for 4.23 quarts of oil for an oil change when the filter is replaced. I buy Shell Rotella T 5W-40 full synthetic in a gallon container, then add 8 ounces of STP Oil Treatment to increase the viscosity slightly and get added zinc for smooth tranny shifting and I'm right at the 4.25 quart point. On the centerstand, the oil level after running the bike and letting it settle is just slightly above the center mark in the oil window. Personally I wouldn't fill it all the way to the top of the window.

Lee in the Mountains of Northern California B)

'04 FJR1300--22,000 miles and lovin' it.

 

[FJRocket]

Personally I wouldn't fill it all the way to the top of the window. Lee in the Mountains of Northern California B)

'04 FJR1300--22,000 miles and lovin' it.

Of course, Lee, you are correct. Don't try this at home. I like your described fill parameters.

Just wondering BY SIGHT, if anyone can affirm or deny that the difference in a fill with an new (empty) filter can be seen in the sight window. I.E., when you put in 4.25 quarts, how much shows in the window BEFORE you start the engine and let the level settle at the proper mark?

 

[FJRottie]

unless you plan on tipping the bike upside down, you're not going to get it all out anyway

:lmao: :lol:
How true.

I have not had a problem with oil level rising like some. I agree with what Lee stated.

I drain, remove filter, replace filter, add 4.2 US Qts and then start.

I suspect some people have problems because they fill based on the sight gauge with a "cold" oil reading initially.

I check the level after running and cooling down with the first 4.2 US Qts.

Been in the centre for over a year. YMMV.

 

[Tom of VA]

Don't want to go home and look at manual and danged if I can remember the exact amount of oil

If you go to Yamaha's web site and then to "MY Yamaha" and create a profile, you can enter all your bikes and view your owners manuals on-line or down load them as a PDF. No need to mess with the book. Of coarse I'm assuming everyone has to sit in front of computer all day at work like I do.

 

[FJRocket]

Don't want to go home and look at manual and danged if I can remember the exact amount of oil

If you go to Yamaha's web site and then to "MY Yamaha" and create a profile, you can enter all your bikes and view your owners manuals on-line or down load them as a PDF. No need to mess with the book. Of coarse I'm assuming everyone has to sit in front of computer all day at work like I do.

And that will get you into the PARTS exploded views, too. You can get actual Yamaha part numbers off of there. Lots of goodies on the My Yammy site.

 

[3dogs]

To change the oil in your FJR perform the following steps:

1. Look up the word "Anal" in a dictionary. This will put the subject of motorcycle oil changing angst in perspective.

2. Put your bike on the center stand and remove the drain plug. When the oil flow from the drain hole slows to a trickle reinstall the drain plug. If you have trouble in determining what a “trickle” is go back to step one.

3. Take a one-gallon (or 4, 1 quart) container(s) of your favorite oil (if you have to ask what type or brand, go back to step number 1) and pour all of it into your FJR. Close the oil filler cap. If you try to look up the torque specifications in a service manual for the oil filler cap, go back to step one.

4. This is the last step. It is by far the most difficult step to perform. DON’T LOOK AT THE SIGHT GLASS. Instead put your protective gear on. Take your bike off the center stand and go for a ride.

NOTE: If step number 4 is beyond your abilities going back to step 1 will not help. Seeking the advice/counseling of a professional is your only hope.