Oil Drain Bolts

[paulie]

I just did my first oil change and was surprised to find that while the final drive had a magnetic bolt, the engine case did not. Is that correct, or did they get switched somewhere along the line? The owners manual doesn't help and I'm still waiting on the shop manual.

No shavings on the final drive plug, by the way. :yahoo:

Thanks,

 

[big ears]

The oil drain plug doesn't have a magnet. You can buy a final drive one and use it.

 

[paulie]

The oil drain plug doesn't have a magnet. You can buy a final drive one and use it.

Thanks. That's what I figured, but it was just surprising.

 

[SkooterG]

Thanks. That's what I figured, but it was just surprising.

Why? You got an oil filter.

Many peeps around here put the magnetic jobbie from the final drive into the oil pan for added protection. Anal-retentive *******s that they are.

BTW, you could have gone to Yammie's online parts fiche to get the info you desired. It's an excellent resource you should be familiar with.

Yamaha parts fiche online

 

[C&C]

Exactly what Skooter said. You've got an oil filter for the engine (if you see metal on the magnet in your engine, you've got pretty big problems). The rear gear is on it's own so the magnet helps (between gear oil changes).

 

[kaitsdad]

Part Number should you wish to order one.

 

[El Toro]

I just did my first oil change and was surprised to find that while the final drive had a magnetic bolt, the engine case did not. Is that correct, or did they get switched somewhere along the line?No shavings on the final drive plug, by the way.

If you're doing a 600 mile service, are you sure you know what you're looking for on the magnet in the final drive? The metal is very fine grit, not shavings. It is in the form of a black covering stuck to the magnet. You remove it by either taking your plug over to the parts washer and brushing it off, or with a shop rag, or both.

Like the others said: You don't have a filter in the final drive, so you need the magnet there. You have a filter in the engine, so you don't need the magnet there. I would not waste my money adding a magnetic plug to the engine, but if you do, it won't hurt a thing.

There are three crush washers, one for each of the two drain plugs, and one for the fill/level check plug on the final drive. If its not leaking, you don't need to worry about these for now... but next time you do an oil or final drive fluid change, get the crush washers. I have found that a lot of dealers are not using new ones, but the service manual (and reasonable shop practice) says that you should replace them every time you pull a plug.

Congratulations on getting the fluids and filter change done. Your FJR will thank you for this later :yahoo: .

 

[dgfella]

Also, I believe that there is much more 'foreign matter' on the first drive fluid change. The good news is that it is some kind of assembly lube that is used, which gets removed in the first fluid change.

Oh, and by the way, I'm one of those anal retentive *******s who has recently replaced his original oil pan bolt with the magnetic one. I have not done a change yet, so I cannot say that is have accomplished anything. Better on the magnet, then flowing through the engine.

dgfella

 

[odot]

I put a metal chip detector plug on mine. So, whenever that red light goes on that it's hooked up to.........I'll know that I'm hopelessly ******.

 

[OkieBikerDude]

I purchased a rear gear drain plug (with magnet) to use in the crankcase but because of the extra length I have not installed it. Have any of you actually used the rear drain plug in the engine? Just curious as I have owned cars with a magnet in the engine oil pan as delivered from the manufacturer, so I believe there is some valid reason for using one.

OBD

 

[FZ/FJR Mike]

Yes Ive installed the magnetic drain plug in the oil pan. No worries, the added length of the magnetic core doesn't interfere with anything.

 

[El Toro]

Just curious as I have owned cars with a magnet in the engine oil pan as delivered from the manufacturer, so I believe there is some valid reason for using one.

Shouldn't hurt a thing.

 

[charismaticmegafauna]

Shouldn't hurt a thing.

Yeah right..., unless that magnet comes loose and wanders around inside your engine. They're only glued-in, you know?

Why not go with Mama Yama's recco (standard drain plug)?

 

[Herkypilot]

Again - not shavings but fine particulate metal in the oil the filter doesn't catch. Try draining the oil, let it set in the drain pan for a while, then pour most of it into what ever you are using to recycle (get rid of) the oil. Now take the drain pan out into the sunlight and angle the pan around and look for the glitter! There will be some in most cases. I don't get all worked up about it unless I see bigger pieces! :dribble:

 

[El Toro]

Again - not shavings but fine particulate metal in the oil the filter doesn't catch. Try draining the oil, let it set in the drain pan for a while, then pour most of it into what ever you are using to recycle (get rid of) the oil. Now take the drain pan out into the sunlight and angle the pan around and look for the glitter! There will be some in most cases. I don't get all worked up about it unless I see bigger pieces! :dribble:

The filter should be fine enough to catch just about anything that will glint. Sounds like a Fram and an operating bypass, or heavy pieces falling out of the stream and to the bottom of the sump by gravity.

 

[C&C]

Again - not shavings but fine particulate metal in the oil the filter doesn't catch. Try draining the oil, let it set in the drain pan for a while, then pour most of it into what ever you are using to recycle (get rid of) the oil. Now take the drain pan out into the sunlight and angle the pan around and look for the glitter! There will be some in most cases. I don't get all worked up about it unless I see bigger pieces! :dribble:

The filter should be fine enough to catch just about anything that will glint. Sounds like a Fram and an operating bypass, or heavy pieces falling out of the stream and to the bottom of the sump by gravity.

It might not be magnetic stuff floating around. There's a heck of a lot of non ferrous in our engines. The filter doesn't discriminate (generally filters to around 20 microns.) Here, this saying holds true, "don't sweat the small (exceedingly small) stuff".

 

[YukonG]

I put a metal chip detector plug on mine. So, whenever that red light goes on that it's hooked up to.........I'll know that I'm hopelessly ******.

LOL!!!

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[vectervp1]

Well what you all are forgetting is that if you get a magnetic plug it will help realign the molecules of the oil and will not only help keep the operating tempratures of the engine down, but will also give you a 3-5hp boost and make you better looking to the opposite ***.

 

[kaitsdad]

Well what you all are forgetting is that if you get a magnetic plug it will help realign the molecules of the oil and will not only help keep the operating tempratures of the engine down, but will also give you a 3-5hp boost and make you better looking to the opposite ***.

As well as tightening your rings.....

and tight rings are a good thing.