RadioHowie
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Completely disagree.....Put it on with this...
Take if off with this...
Put it on with this...
Take it off with this...
Oil filter stuck....
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RenoJohn
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Completely disagree.....
Put it on with this...
I agree on the hands, but trust me, if you have hairy palm you can take on and off without tools:
shouldn't be a problem for most of ya's
I keep hearing hand tightening is not enough on various bike forums...on my SV for example, the service manual call for 2 full turns after the gasket first barely makes contact, not possible with my hand, however I only turn it 1 full turn after first contact - 2 still seems excessive to meCompletely disagree.....
Put it on with this...
I am no expert for what is good for the FJR.
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JamesK
Got to ride
The main thing is to make sure you apply a thin film of the new oil to the gasket and the aluminum mating surface than tighten with one hand, (pre-fill the filter with oil as well) with the final touch done with both hands, in 88k miles i've done this on my 07 i've never had any leaks or problems in removing the filter using a simple filter wrench i pictured above.I keep hearing hand tightening is not enough on various bike forums...on my SV for example, the service manual call for 2 full turns after the gasket first barely makes contact, not possible with my hand, however I only turn it 1 full turn after first contact - 2 still seems excessive to me
I am no expert for what is good for the FJR.
I ran into this problem the first few times I put on a new filter and torqued it to the specs. Then somewhere here I found some sage advice that said just tighten it by hand, as firmly as you can, and that would be fine. So that's what I've been doing for the last 16k miles and it works perfectly. Never spilled a drop of oil and I can remove the filter easily using one of those cheapie filter wrenches.
DonRed7
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Quick homemade filter wrench..
Grab a medium sized cotton rag slightly dampen and insert the two end into a 7/8's wrench closed end, make the loop big enough so that the wrench will bunch the rag a bit and lock as you are turning and wraping the ends up. Put a pair of vise grips on the wrench to turn. Has always removed the MOST difficult for me even when a proper filter tool would slip. It's basically just a 5 cent strap wrench. If you need extra grip use a bit of rubbing compound on the rag.
DB
Grab a medium sized cotton rag slightly dampen and insert the two end into a 7/8's wrench closed end, make the loop big enough so that the wrench will bunch the rag a bit and lock as you are turning and wraping the ends up. Put a pair of vise grips on the wrench to turn. Has always removed the MOST difficult for me even when a proper filter tool would slip. It's basically just a 5 cent strap wrench. If you need extra grip use a bit of rubbing compound on the rag.
DB
na1g
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If you bang a screwdriver through the filter (should be called the "barbarian filter removal method") remember that there is a threaded pipe that extends from the engine that the filter screws on to. Install the screwdriver out near the end of the filter to be sure you don't hit that pipe.
When you are done with this little project, return to the shop and 1) drop the mangled filter on the service desk, 2) try the screwdriver technique on the "technician's" head, and 3) never use that shop again. If they can't do a simple oil change correctly, what would they do to a valve adjust? Jeeze!
pete
BTW, the "barbarian filter removal method" is standard procedure on new Honda ST1300s. Apparently a sumo wrestler is employed to install the filters at the factory.
When you are done with this little project, return to the shop and 1) drop the mangled filter on the service desk, 2) try the screwdriver technique on the "technician's" head, and 3) never use that shop again. If they can't do a simple oil change correctly, what would they do to a valve adjust? Jeeze!
pete
BTW, the "barbarian filter removal method" is standard procedure on new Honda ST1300s. Apparently a sumo wrestler is employed to install the filters at the factory.
Bustanut joker
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Slosey
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Friend of mine, who is a motorcycle mechanic and FJR owner, uses a metal screw on the side of a oil filter wrench...plastic cap type wrench like the one used in this FJR tech site https://www.fjr1300.info/mods/oilfilter.html.
Drill a small hold on the side of the oil filter wrench. Place the wrench over the stubborn filter then screw in a sheet metal screw or drywall screw through the hole you made in the wrench and into the filter. Should turn out easy without slipping.
Drill a small hold on the side of the oil filter wrench. Place the wrench over the stubborn filter then screw in a sheet metal screw or drywall screw through the hole you made in the wrench and into the filter. Should turn out easy without slipping.
na1g
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Great tip, Jim. Thanks for posting it. Much more civilized than the screwdriver. A properly-sized hole and a sheetmetal screw will work perfectly.
pete
pete
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Rollie Reincarnated
If you use one of these, they can slip. I put a sheet of 150 grit sandpaper inside the cup first and then put it on the filter. This dramatically increases the bite.
Grumpy
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Take the SOB back to the dealer and say, "You Assholes put this on, now you can take it off"! He obviously never heard about lubing the gasket with a bit of oil before tightening things up.
RenoJohn
Well-known member
Ya ever seen so much drama over puttin a filter on and off??? Ain't any more complicated than replacing a light bulb.
Nice hand Reno... What you doing this week?
I'll meet ya half way
Bust, some things scare me, and this thread is one of 'em.
half way ya say? Must be the economy, never seen you afraid to go all the way
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markjenn
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I know it's not the factory recommended way, but I've been using the "get it as tight as you can with your hands" method for 40 years on hundreds of vehicles and I have yet to have any filter leak or get loose. And none have been terribly hard to remove, although I don't try to get them off with my hands. I have a variety of oil-filter wrenches, but I have three differently-sized strap wrenches I use first, space permitting. Sometimes access is poor for a strap wrench (not the case with the FJR which has about the best oil filter placement I've seen on a bike) and you have to use a cap wrench. If its a track day bike, then I safety wire.
When you're removing a too-tight filter, a strap wrench at the base of the filter is much more effective than anything that twists at the end cap. The FJR has great access for a strap wrench, so I view it as the optimal removal tool and if you can't get it to budge with that, then you're probably at the hammer/chisel point.
- Mark
When you're removing a too-tight filter, a strap wrench at the base of the filter is much more effective than anything that twists at the end cap. The FJR has great access for a strap wrench, so I view it as the optimal removal tool and if you can't get it to budge with that, then you're probably at the hammer/chisel point.
- Mark
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NMRoadRunner
A Bulls work is never done!
So I'm changing the filter on my bike for the first oil change, 600mile, and it's TIGHT, VERY TIGHT. I grab it with both hands, gripping firmly, and rotate my shoulders to get some leverage and ........ RIIIIIIP! :dribble: I hear my sub-capulas tendon tear....... Then feel the PAIN!!!!!!!. :dribble: :dribble: :dribble: Don't do it like I did, I couldn't ride for 6 months without pain in my left shoulder. But I rode the bike just 6 days after the tear, It just hurt alot. :yahoo:
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