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giant22000

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Today I was going to change the oil in my 09 Feejer (600 mile service) and discovered that the plug had apparently been overtightened from the factory to the point that when the I was finally able to free up the oil plug the threads in the case had been stripped out and some of the threads were still on the oil plug once finally removed. Now, the oil plug will get about half way in and and start to slip. This was apparently overtightened from the factory. I contacted the dealership and asked about this being warrantied and was told, they would have to see the bike and take a look at it in order to determine if it can be warrantied, but they didn't see why not being that it was overtightened from the factory. Any chance of them denying this as a warranty issue? I've also read that this is a known issue of the oil plugs being overtightened from the factory. Anybody have any ammo I can shoot at the dealership in case they try and act funny with me about it? Thanks! :(

 
They can ALWAYS find a reason to deny. You admitted to changing your own oil, I'll bet they claim you stripped it.

 
They can ALWAYS find a reason to deny. You admitted to changing your own oil, I'll bet they claim you stripped it.
as a last resort, jam the plug back in as best you can, add the dirty oil back into the crankcase, and bring the bike to the dealership you bought it from for an oil change. Let them deal with it.

 
as a last resort, jam the plug back in as best you can, add the dirty oil back into the crankcase, and bring the bike to the dealership you bought it from for an oil change. Let them deal with it.

I thought about this, but the problem is, they know me specifically down there (after speaking with them about my problem) and know what my problem is, so I don't think this will work...

 
as a last resort, jam the plug back in as best you can, add the dirty oil back into the crankcase, and bring the bike to the dealership you bought it from for an oil change. Let them deal with it.

I thought about this, but the problem is, they know me specifically down there (after speaking with them about my problem) and know what my problem is, so I don't think this will work...
if they won't commit to the warranty work, take it to another Yammy dealership

this wasn't your fault

 
if they won't commit to the warranty work, take it to another Yammy dealership
this wasn't your fault
If I go this route, is their anything that they put into the computer showing that I had previously tried to make a warranty claim that the other dealer would be able to see and thow up a red flag?

 
If I go this route, is their anything that they put into the computer showing that I had previously tried to make a warranty claim that the other dealer would be able to see and thow up a red flag?
Quit trying to figure out how to get around a problem you don't even have yet. It's a straightforward warranty claim. If your dealer won't work with you, then it's time to go to another dealer. Don't worry about whether the first dealer tells Yamaha about it, you want Yamaha to know about it, you have no reason to hide anything.

 
Unfortunately, you are not the first to have this problem. I don't know if others have even tried to get it covered by warranty. I would think that it is covered, and maybe if everyone who had this problem had made a claim it would not still be happening.

Two ways to fix the problem. One is to repair the threads with a heli coil, timesert, or something similar. The other is to replace the oil pan.

 
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as a last resort, jam the plug back in as best you can, add the dirty oil back into the crankcase, and bring the bike to the dealership you bought it from for an oil change. Let them deal with it.

I thought about this, but the problem is, they know me specifically down there (after speaking with them about my problem) and know what my problem is, so I don't think this will work...
if they won't commit to the warranty work, take it to another Yammy dealership

this wasn't your fault
check the Bin O Facts and

google search "oil stripping site:fjrforum.com"

print it out and take it with you to give to the service manager

this is a VERY common problem and many here have been burned by it

 
I just dropped it off at the dealership. The guy that helped me out reassured me it should not be a problem to get this covered under warranty. Hopefully they do not tell me that it's covered under warranty far parts only. The labor on this job is 75% of the cost. I'll post back when I hear something. Thanks for everybody's help!

 
Sorry to hear about your problem and I hope the dealer does right by you. I don't know who the torque-happy nit wit is at the Yamaha factory but the first time I changed the oil in my '08 I was sure I was going to either strip the drain plug or snap it off. I needed to use a 2 foot breaker bar and have my wife hold the bike to keep it from moving forward. When it finally let go I was sure I had snapped it off.

 
sorry to hear about yet ANOTHER FJR owner whose bike seemingly had the oil pan drain plug tightened at the factory by King Kong.

On my '05 FJR I really thought I was going to break a wrench the first time I took the plug out.

So much for "factory spec" torque being applied.

Yamaha should cover this under warranty.

 
For what it's worth, if they don't want to pay for labor, consider going with a helicoil or Timesert repair. Steel thread inserts in aluminum oil pans are pretty standard and will last forever. Many OEM oil pans come this way from the factory. And the labor will be tiny compared to replacing the oil pan.

 
When I did my first oil change on my 08, the plug was pretty tight, but not like that. I consider myself fortunate that didn't happen to me. Good luck with the warranty fix. Let us know how it goes.

GP

 
Pulliing threads out with it sounds more like a cross-thread than an over-torque situation to me. As someone who has changed more oil than I can remember, I can tell you that drain plugs always seem much tighter coming out than when you put them in. My guess for this would be the heat cycling. I hope everything works out well at the dealership.

Mike

 
For what it's worth, if they don't want to pay for labor, consider going with a helicoil or Timesert repair. Steel thread inserts in aluminum oil pans are pretty standard and will last forever. Many OEM oil pans come this way from the factory. And the labor will be tiny compared to replacing the oil pan.
HUGE +1 on the Time-Sert, speaking from experience (albeit on a different bike). I wrote a report w/pics should you need find yourself needing to access such information: HERE

Best wishes for a successful and speedy resolution.

AGirl

 
+1 on the Time-Sert, speaking from experience (albeit on a different bike). I wrote a report w/pics should you need find yourself needing to access such information: HERE
Verrry nice write up AGirl. :good:

You lurk hard girl. ;)

 
+1 on the Time-Sert, speaking from experience (albeit on a different bike). I wrote a report w/pics should you need find yourself needing to access such information: HERE
Verrry nice write up AGirl. :good:

You lurk hard girl. ;)

And let me tell you, this girl knows how to change her oil. ;) sorry, pivate joke. Good to see you posting again Agirl.

 
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