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OK, All it took was one ride! I'm sold! :clapping:

Sorry Honda, but I'm off to Yamaha land! The faithfull St1100 will be put out to pasture, to live out it's remaining days in the comfort of my garage. I can't bear to sell her. She has been too many places with me. She is truly a part of the family :drinks:

She can just take a few runs a month to keep fresh.

Now, there is going to be a new THOROUGHBRED in the stall next to her, an FJR.
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My only question is, do I get an 05 or is the new 06 that much better? :dntknw:

Please, anyone who has had a first generation FJR and now has the 06. Is the 06 that much better??

I can get an 05 with 3600 miles on it with a factory top box, heil extenders and a throttlemeizer<sp CC. He is asking $10,500. Maybe I could get it for $9,500?

Again, would I be smarter to get the 06?

Thanks, CK :grin:

 
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I have an 05 that I bought off the showroom floor and I love it to death, but in comparison with the 06 in minor cosmetic changes, basically the same engine, heavier, minor fairing style changes, I still would choose the 05.

 
You will be very happy with whatever FJR you get :yahoo: , I had an 05 and traded it for an 06 and for ne it is 100% better. The heat issue from the motor on pre 06 models is a big issue for some people. For me, it was unbearable. I did not have ABS brakes on my 05 and even a slight touch of the rear brake would lock up the rear and start a skid, with the 06 ABS is standard and for me it is a BIG improvement. The 06 seems to handle better overall and it has a outside air temp display as well as a display of what gear you are in, both nice additions. The seat the 06 is height adjustable to raise it for taller riders, the 05 does not have this. So, there are a number of changes from 05 to 06, but nothing really earth shattering (except the heat on the rider fix), but for me it was enough to trade up and I am VERY happy now :yahoo: Good luck with your choice and welcome to the FJR world :clapping:

 
I own the '05 version of the FJR. I love it! What a fantastic bike.

Best bike I ever had! GET THE '06! (You can read why in a number of posts here)

:D

(if things fall into place, I'm trading for the new version!)

 
One long ride in traffic on a 90 degree hot day, and you will feel the inside of your legs and crotch cooking like you won't believe. the tank gets hot to the touch and the body gets very uncomfortable. Now mind you, this ONLY happens when it is really hot outside. the motor does NOT overheat, it's just the radiating heat that cooks your legs and nuts. In cooler weather, even just 75 to 80 degrees, there is no problem for me with my '04, but you will cook in the hot weather especially if you get stuck in traffic and can't get the wind flowing.

If the 06 is truly as good as the cycle mags say (see the latest cycle world review, they love it) then I would definitely say go for the 06 and the curved radiator with dual fans and new improved air venting in the body work. You can't put a price on comfort if you ride in a part of the country with hot climate. If you are in a cooler area, then don't worry about it. For me in southern Vermont, I avoid riding when it gets really hot out unless I am going somewhere that has no traffic jams.........good luck, it's a really great bike, much more fun than my old beemer RT.................VT

 
I love my 05. I must be num I do not get the heat issue. Or I am getting off so much from riding this bike I don't notice. I live in Havasu today 123 degrees insame hu. I got up at 4.00 Am to go ridding and it was fkknnnnnnn 90 plus. Oh the 05 is lighter too I think I heard 60 pounds thats alot. I read in a test splitting hairs between the 05 and 06. The 06 was better for long term cruise'n and the 05 was better in the twisties. If it was me I would not know what to do. Flip a coin. Or see if you can get your hands on one of each for a little ride.

 
From what I've read posted by '04-'05 owners, they'd buy an '06. Not all would trade up for the $$$ difference because they already own an FJR. If you can swing it, buy the '06 BUT, you'd be happy with an '05. Not all '03-'05 FJRs are that hot , mine certainly isn't, but I know owners whose bikes do throw mega-heat.

 
:rolleyes:

OK, All it took was one ride! I'm sold! :clapping:

Sorry Honda, but I'm off to Yamaha land! The faithfull St1100 will be put out to pasture, to live out it's remaining days in the comfort of my garage. I can't bear to sell her. She has been too many places with me. She is truly a part of the family :drinks:

She can just take a few runs a month to keep fresh.

Now, there is going to be a new THOROUGHBRED in the stall next to her, an FJR.
ride2-1.gif


My only question is, do I get an 05 or is the new 06 that much better? :dntknw:

Please, anyone who has had a first generation FJR and now has the 06. Is the 06 that much better??

I can get an 05 with 3600 miles on it with a factory top box, heil extenders and a throttlemeizer<sp CC. He is asking $10,500. Maybe I could get it for $9,500?

:rolleyes: Howdy Clark,

Just wanted to give you my two cents on my perceived differences on the '05 and '06 as I owned an '05 and now have a '06.

The heat issue that many people complained about on the '03, '04, and '05 are now gone on the '06, the Yamaha engineers did their homework there IS NO HEAT ISSUE with the '06.

Only time will tell, but so far I am unaware of any ticking problems (valve guides) that was reported on about 6-7% of the '03, '04, and '05's.

Buffeting and negative pressure behind the windshield have been eliminated on the '06 by the new fairing vent system, I have a very nice and quite pocket of air behind the windshield at all speeds including well north of the century mark.

Adjustable handlebars and seat height on the '06 are very nice and allow an ability to adjust the bike's ergonomics to you, although the seat height adjustment still isn't sufficient for anyone 5'6 and under to flat foot it, if you are in that camp like me, an after market seat such as Corbin, Rick Mayer etc., etc., is in order.

The linked ABS brakes on the '06 work extremely well, are well integrated and are nice and unobtrusive.

The stock seat on the '06 seems to be more user friendly and good for longer times in the saddle.

The throttle on the '06 was a step backwards in that there seems to be much more return pressure on the throttle. Some owners have cured that by detaching the middle throttle spring....me, I just added a Throttlemeister and that is a no longer a concern.

I find the new instrument cluster is nice and gives me some appreciated info. such as the gear indicator and ambient air temperature. As earlier mentioned there is a software glitch on the instantaneous mpg indicator and Yamaha will fix that problem if you want. That's something that I am still thinking about.

The two part mirrors are an improvement on the '06.

The 12v outlet in the "glove" compartment is handy for recharging your ipod, phone or running a GPS, but the location wasn't too brilliant on the part of the designers as you have to have the access door open. So I just had Tony's Yamaha Sportscenter hardwire the Garmin GPS for me and install a rear powerlet outlet (hardwired) so I could operate any electrical clothing and or charge my battery with a battery tender plus without having to remove an access cover as I did on the '05.

If you plan to install Moko or Motovation sliders on the '06 you can do so directly without having to drill holes in the fairing or remove the fairing peices and install mounting plates like you did on the '05. The sliders will screw right into the frames without any hassle.

The horns on this bike are not up to snuff, but that is true of every bike manufacturer I've every owned or ridden. (BMW, Honda, Harley, Kawasaki, Ducati, Triumph, and Yamaha)

The suspension on both bikes are fairly comparable and the handling isn't light years apart either. They both handle quite well.

Both bikes have gobs and gobs of power when you need it and be prepared to be at that point in the distance sooner than you realize.

The '06 has a slightly taller final gearing which translates into a slightly more sedate engine rpm at typical highway crusing speeds.

Both bikes are winners, but I am glad I went for the '06 as all the minor improvements made the ride a more refined experience.

Scott
 
I had an 05 and loved it.

Got an 06 and love it more mainly because of the dramatically reduced heat, reduced nagative pressure with the screen up, & adjustable bars...better brakes to.

If your not on a budget, I do think it's worth the extra $$$ to get an 06 IMO.

If i didn't have the choice of an 06, my first choice would still be an 03-05 FJR.

 
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I love my 05, but I'd buy the 06 for issues mentioned and one important issue that nobody mentioned yet. The 06 has shorter exhaust valve lengths. There is serious conjecture that this might be a fix to a issue that seems to hit some FJR's.

Therefore with the possbile engine fix, the other things that have me leaning to the 06 are:

1) Long swingarm for improved stability

2) Heat fixes

3) Headlight adjusters much better

4) Adjustable bars

5) Better position of rear footrests

Why I wouldn't trade my 05 in?

1) I love it

2) I have a lot of upgrades to it that I wouldn't want to have to move or lose:

- Wilbers 641 and Fork Springs

- MCL Fork Brace

- Radiator guard

- Fenda Extenda

- Tacky Grips

- Vista Cruise (throttle lock)

- Cee Baileys screen (soon to be V-stream)

- Corbin custom seat

- Yamaha topcase

- Starcom comm system

- MCL passenger peg extenders

- Cee Baileys headlight protectors

(gosh, I'm so behind!)

God I love my '05.

I saw an '06AE and the dealer was asking slightly over $18k. That seemed too steep for me...I'll keep my '05, thanks.

If the '05 that you were looking at has ABS, I'd go with the '05. My fix to the heat problem is to do what I always do anyway: wear riding pants. Seems to solve the problem for me unless it's over 100 and then you're hot no matter what.

Gee...I guess I can't make up my mind either...sorry...no help here. (get the 06)

 
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You better go for an 06. I also came from an st1100. Your not use to the kind of heat these motors put out. if you've never ridden the 05 , or havent been on 'hot" bikes in the past, your going to think the 06 is "very warm". They made some pretty dramatic changes to the 06 that makes it a worthwhile purchase over the earlier models. Heat management being one of them. If you can steal an 05, and dont mind a "hot" bike (or can shield yourself from the heat with protective gear), Get the 05.

Otherwise 06 it.

GreyGoose

 
I have an 05 that I bought off the showroom floor and I love it to death, but in comparison with the 06 in minor cosmetic changes, basically the same engine, heavier, minor fairing style changes, I still would choose the 05.
Thanks, What about the heat and the backdraft issure? The 05 I rode sucked me into the tank when I put up the windshield. (don't get me wrong. Sucking is sometimes good, just not at 120 mph, but then I never

thought of it at 120mph. might be fun!

Really, how do you solve the sucking problem?

Is $10.5K or 9.5K a good price for an o0 with a factory top box, heil risers and a tmeister cc?

Thanks,

CK :D

You will be very happy with whatever FJR you get :yahoo: , I had an 05 and traded it for an 06 and for ne it is 100% better. The heat issue from the motor on pre 06 models is a big issue for some people. For me, it was unbearable. I did not have ABS brakes on my 05 and even a slight touch of the rear brake would lock up the rear and start a skid, with the 06 ABS is standard and for me it is a BIG improvement. The 06 seems to handle better overall and it has a outside air temp display as well as a display of what gear you are in, both nice additions. The seat the 06 is height adjustable to raise it for taller riders, the 05 does not have this. So, there are a number of changes from 05 to 06, but nothing really earth shattering (except the heat on the rider fix), but for me it was enough to trade up and I am VERY happy now :yahoo: Good luck with your choice and welcome to the FJR world :clapping:
I too noticed a little wobble when I hit the breaks on the 05.

ck

 
The 12v outlet in the "glove" compartment is handy for recharging your ipod, phone or running a GPS, but the location wasn't too brilliant on the part of the designers as you have to have the access door open. So I just had Tony's Yamaha Sportscenter hardwire the Garmin GPS for me and install a rear powerlet outlet (hardwired) so I could operate any electrical clothing and or charge my battery with a battery tender plus without having to remove an access cover as I did on the '05.Scott
I read on this site that there is a hole (with a rubber grormmet ) in the glove box so you can plug in your

charger and run the wire out the bottom of the box. (use the changer while the box is closed.)

Hope I got that right!

Thanks for all your help. I'm getting an 06 (damn, I have to wait till next year now. I never ever buy new)!

ANYONE WHO HAS AN 06 WITH A FACTORY TOP BOX, AND AT LEAST 1K MILES ON IT FOR SALE--TALK TO ME---IT'S SOLD!

[SIZE=10pt]Edit by SkooterG: Repaired abhorrent f'ing up of the quote function. Man of steel has much to learn still, he does.[/SIZE]

 
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Fack, if I were The Man of Steel, why would I be pissin' around on a silly motorcycle? You know, faster than a bullet 'n shit. Jess wonnerin'.

 
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Fack, if I were The Man of Steel, why would I be pissin' around on a silly motorcycle? You know, faster than a bullet 'n shit. Jess wonnerin'.
I hear you. However with all the attacks on the NRA the bullets are getting slower and slower!

So I think the FJR I rode a few days ago is FASTER than most speeding bullets! :trinibob: Besides, Lois :wub: doesn't like all the pock marks on my face caused by all the bullets I've been catching up with! :russian_roulette:

Then there is the issue of the new kryptonite covered bullets, but I won't go into that here. Let's just say it's not a pretty story! :nuke: :aaskull:

CK

 
Hey there CK,

I have ridden an 04, 05 & 06 and the 06 is MUCH improved over the other years. No heat issue, more comfortable, MUCH better fairing ans shield for wind protection and noise and better brakes. The difference for you seems to be about $4000. I think the 06 is surely worth it.

Rob

 
Hey there CK,
I have ridden an 04, 05 & 06 and the 06 is MUCH improved over the other years. No heat issue, more comfortable, MUCH better fairing ans shield for wind protection and noise and better brakes. The difference for you seems to be about $4000. I think the 06 is surely worth it.

Rob
Rob, Thanks for the info. Did you say something about a 4K loan? :yahoo:

 
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