Pin throttle flick it into 1st and hang on

[tripletango]

OK so what will happen if this is done with the AE? Anyone got an idea?

 

[escapefjrtist]

Umm...how about keep shiftin 'til you run outta gears or road.

--G

 

[tripletango]

Umm...how about keep shiftin 'til you run outta gears or road.
--G

Wonder what happens with the clutch engagement by the computer. Does it back the revs down or engage hard and spin the back wheel or slip like hell until all is sync'd

 

[madmike2]

I would opine that the computer would not allow the clutch to disengage while the throttle was pinned. I'd guess that the AE is engineered to allow the shift from neutral to 1st only when the engine is idling, then engage the clutch once the RPMs raise with the twist of the throttle. At least I think that's how the Rep explained at Alice's.

 

[SkooterG]

Here we go again. Though fun, this is all mental masturbation until an AE actually hits the shores and we get actual answers to all these questions, and not speculation.

 

[tripletango]

Here we go again. Though fun, this is all mental masturbation until an AE actually hits the shores and we get actual answers to all these questions, and not speculation.

Yeh but it's fun to what if !! I am sure the rep was right. The computer has you by the nuts. No funny stuff that may cost warranty money! It will be interesting to see how it all works. Surprised not more has filtered down from their imperial majesties in Japan.

 

[nusman68]

OK so what will happen if this is done with the AE? Anyone got an idea?

Sure-- your hear a loud Japanese voice yell 'Banzai!' and then the bike flips over backwards!

Then the bike stores a '13' (Banzai error code) and your warranty is void...

 

[tripletango]

OK so what will happen if this is done with the AE? Anyone got an idea?

Sure-- your hear a loud Japanese voice yell 'Banzai!' and then the bike flips over backwards!

Then the bike stores a '13' (Banzai error code) and your warranty is void...

Dam close to it. Pretty hard to get the 05 to wheelie although must admit i am no expert. I am sure the take off will be relatively sedate and controlled which has me a little worried !!

 

[tripletango]

I would opine that the computer would not allow the clutch to disengage while the throttle was pinned. I'd guess that the AE is engineered to allow the shift from neutral to 1st only when the engine is idling, then engage the clutch once the RPMs raise with the twist of the throttle. At least I think that's how the Rep explained at Alice's.

So that is the way it will be. Sounds like well thought out engineering. Well i guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[FJRottie]

Pin throttle flick it into 1st and hang on

I know, your just wondering, but why would you want to do that ? Bad for bike.

Pretty hard to get the 05 to wheelie

It is easy to make an FJR wheelie, and the 06 will do it just as easy. No clutch work required.

It is not good for your forks/fork seals though. Bad.

 

[Pappy]

... mental masturbation ...

I'll be at work tomorrow and people will pass my desk shaking their heads wondering why I'm laughing for no apparent reason...

:haha:

 

[BobbyBlue]

OHHHH GAAAAWWWWWD !!! umm, can you get me a q-tip ? I made a wittle mess.

Bobby

 

[madmike2]

Pretty hard to get the 05 to wheelie ?
............ I am sure the take off will be relatively sedate and controlled which has me a little worried !!

Uhm, hard to get the FJR to wheelie????? I've accidently done so during a rather spirited "acceleration to merge". This does not require "popping the clutch", merely application of many ft. lbs. of torque. Very interesting going down an on ramp in Pasadena on the back wheel, in second gear. CAUTION: Rider must be aware of situations and take care to NOT to close throttle and slam the front end down. Very bad on fork seals!

With the AE model, I would think the initial take-of would be sedate, but the more the rider twists on the throttle the more power will be transmitted once the clutch is engaged. It's rather hard on the clutch to "slip" it, anyway. I'd be a little more concerned about the ability to "feather" the clutch in low speed/parking lot maneuvers. Perhaps the computer will be reading wheel/transmission speed vs. throttle inputs and adjust accordingly.

As Scooter has so aptly stated, this is all mental exercise and supposition until the first one is ridden and reported on.

 

[Just Plain Dave]

Pretty hard to get the 05 to wheelie although must admit i am no expert. I am sure the take off will be relatively sedate and controlled which has me a little worried !!

Are you familiar with that black twisty thing on the right end of the steering mechanism. Lean back to a comfortable position, grab it, move it as far as possible top towards you, rapidly, in low gear on a dry cool asphalt road. Someone told me the front end was to heavy to get off the ground. I tried it. It cost me my favorite pair of roadrunner coyote underwear.

 

[tripletango]

With regard to the title of the thread. This is a purely hypothetical situation. It is pointed at information as to how the throttle is connected to the clutch and how the program handles revving the bike's engine in neutral.

I am sure it will allow you to do this.

However you normally have revs established ie 2000+- rpm with the clutched trans taking off in first. My question with the AE. If you have revs ready to go and you shift the gearbox into first - how is this handled by the computer?

Especially if you have a handful wound in !!

Does it just slip the clutch until synced or bang the thing in and spin the back wheel. (leading to a huge wheelie as described by others)

BTW most guys say the bike spins the rear on takeoff rather than wheelie. A wheelie is initiated with full wheel traction I would think.

 

[Centerline]

Pretty hard to get the 05 to wheelie ?
............ I am sure the take off will be relatively sedate and controlled which has me a little worried !!

Uhm, hard to get the FJR to wheelie????? I've accidently done so during a rather spirited "acceleration to merge". This does not require "popping the clutch", merely application of many ft. lbs. of torque. Very interesting going down an on ramp in Pasadena on the back wheel, in second gear. CAUTION: Rider must be aware of situations and take care to NOT to close throttle and slam the front end down. Very bad on fork seals!

With the AE model, I would think the initial take-of would be sedate, but the more the rider twists on the throttle the more power will be transmitted once the clutch is engaged. It's rather hard on the clutch to "slip" it, anyway. I'd be a little more concerned about the ability to "feather" the clutch in low speed/parking lot maneuvers. Perhaps the computer will be reading wheel/transmission speed vs. throttle inputs and adjust accordingly.

As Scooter has so aptly stated, this is all mental exercise and supposition until the first one is ridden and reported on.

The only time my '05 has wheelied without clutch play, is in 1st gear at 4000-6000rpm and suddenly whacking the throttle. Front wheel comes right on up. Mine does not do it without clutch play in any other gear.

 

[madmike2]

As a qualifier, I was on vacation and had the topcase full. A nice downhill onramp about 1/8 mile long to get to freeway speed to merge, whack on throttle in 2nd gear....whooo-boy!

However, my '04 lofted in 2nd gear whilst I was riding quite spirited. I'm kinda glad that now I seem to have outgrown that. Or maybe I've learned to "roll" on the throttle rather than whack it open. Lessons from "Mr. Smooth" (Highlander), hisself!

 

[radman]

I have seen MrVrooom carry the wheel for a block, through 2 gears (at least). No prob for him.

 

[tripletango]

i have had the front wheel up off the road an inch or 2 a few times but i don't think that counts as a wheelie.

Heck my buddy can wheelie a Gold Wing. Has to jerk back on the bars as he drops the clutch at high rpms but that sucker comes up into a full wheelie! Slams back down hard too!